Good afternoon all,
Why do I have this deja vue?
a.. The Bay of Tonkin Resolution that 'legitimized' the Vietnam war,
b.. The German staged 'Polish' invasion of Germany, which because of the British Polish treaty obliged England to declare war on Germany, officially starting the second WW
c.. The killing of the Arch Duke which was the excuse to start the first WW
Wishing you all a wonderful Christmas.
(I was hauled over the coals a few years ago by a Jewish member on the list who I think complained of my lack of sensitivity in wishing none Christians a happy Christmas. For this reason I put in a disclaimer: no offence intended. I hope that those of you who do not celebrate Christmas will also have the integrety to not accept the days off, and will be working dilligently nmext Wednesday and Thursday)
Rgds John
(in sunny - and very dry - Yeppoon)
----- Original Message -----
From: David Quarter <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Wednesday, December 18, 2002 4:50 AM
Subject: Re: Continuation of religion/disability discussion
> A fews comments:
>
> (1) BUsh's "concern with Saddam" (read: Iraq) has little if
> anything to do with ensuring future electoral success (although I'm
> sure this is obviously a concern of his) and almost entirely to do
> with gaining control of oil fields, installing american "friendly" Iraqi
> vassals, installing the upteemth U.S. base in the world, geopolitics,
> etc.
>
>
> (2) This problem is/was American created. The whole twin-towers
> affair was just a convenient (albeit every plausible) excuse for Bush
> and his "allies" to continue their war drive against thier foes (read:
> their wanting to rid the world of any opposition to American-style
> capitalism and western occupation, western hegemony,
> authoritarian rule, un-democratic tendencies, etc). Moroever, there
> is considerable evidence to suggest that the American government
> WAS behind this entire event; and if not behind it, knew about it,
> and did nothing to prevent it.
>
> (3) It's questionable whether this Bin Laden character is even alive.
> I have to wonder, for example, how the supposedly most wanted
> man in the world (read: of the U.S. elite) is able to repeatedly evade
> capture from the police men of the world (i.e., U.S.-led western
> "peacekeepers"[sic!!]), and even with a substantial bounty on his
> head?
>
>
> (4) Bush and Blair call themselves "Christians" for one or perhaps
> all of the following reasons together: so as to cater to their
> constituents; to present themselves as moral individuals as
> opposed to ravaging, genocidal maniacs; to trick people into
> beleiving that their policies are actually driven by moralistic
> concerns as opposed material concern, self-interest, geo-politics,
> etc; cause they know that most westerners are gullible, are sheep
> who believe 80 to 90 percent of what they hear spoken of by
> government, and other insitutions of social control, etc; because
> government always says the opposite of what it believes, and
> always does the opposite of what it says. Take your pick.
>
> (5) I don't think criticizing Bush and Blair's supposed dedicatioin (?)
> to "their" faith stems out of any deep concern with Christianity, as
> opposed the hypocrisy of two men portraying themselves as moral
> human beings, yet simultaneously being responsible for inflicting
> so much hardship, suffering (not least, bloodshed) on the rest of
> the world.
>
> David
>
> Date sent: Tue, 17 Dec 2002 15:48:42 -0000
> Send reply to: Larry Arnold <larry@LARRY-
> ARNOLD.COM>
> From: Larry Arnold <larry@LARRY-
> ARNOLD.COM>
> Subject: Re: Continuation of religion/disability
> discussion
> To: [log in to unmask]
>
> > I cannot help thinking that Bush with his Winston Churchill
> fixation is
> > intent upon doing a Maggie Thatcher to ensure his electoral
> success by going
> > down as the guy who finally did for Saddam, as Maggie did to
> Galtieri but
> > solving nothing in the process.
> >
> > It was some guys masquerading as airline pilots, intent upon a
> Jihad that
> > started this current round of renewed hostilities. You can all
> sleep safe in
> > your beds though that my eyesight is such that I am never likely
> to get a
> > pilots licence as I am not even allowed to drive a bus.
> >
> > To return to the point, Bush and Blair may call themselves
> Christians as
> > much as Osama bin Laden may call himself a Muslim. You
> cannot define either
> > faith merely by what some of its adherents do in it's name.
> >
> > The attack upon Bush and Blair can be seen as has been
> pointed out, not so
> > much as an attack on there supposed hypocrisy but an attack
> upon the
> > religion (and by implication faith in general) which they
> ostennsibly
> > espouse and a general excuse for an outbreak of faith bashing
> form those
> > whose atheist and humanistic perspective is no less a profession
> of "faith"
> > than any other and equally unprovable as an eternal verity.
> >
> > Larry
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: The Disability-Research Discussion List
> > > [mailto:[log in to unmask]]On Behalf
> Of Lillie,Timothy H
> > > Sent: 17 December 2002 14:10
> > > To: [log in to unmask]
> > > Subject: Re: Continuation of religion/disability discussion
> > >
> > >
> > > I am not sure what this means.
> > >
> > > Timothy Lillie, PhD
> > > Dept. of Curricular & Instructional Studies
> > > The University of Akron
> > > Akron OH 44325-4205
> > > 330-972-6746 (Voice)
> > > 330-972-5209 (Fax)
> > >
> > >
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