If nccgs are trained on appointment why are they not consultants? Some don't
want to be. Some are excluded. Some have incomplete training.
We can't become consultants but we must continue to become professionally developed
and then maintain an accepted level of continuing development.
Regarding pay; the doh has made overtures to NCCGs looking to resolve the disparity
in the pay scales between us and other doctors, which it noticed as part of
the last ddrb. The BMA via the ccsc say that consultants come first wait 5 yrs
or so until we have finished. The new ASSG committee has taken two years to
escape from the ccsc, but will spend its first few years on dealing with the
racism which has kept certain doctors as Associate specialists when they are
qualified and have been working as consultants.
So it may be some time before we are offered an worse version of the consultants
contract!
>> what do you see the role of NCCGs as in your departments?
>
>Supervision, on the job teaching and advice to SHOs, NPs etc, fast tracking
>to clear waits, general seeing patients, some formal teaching.
>
>> what do you think are the benefits of being NCCGs?
>
>Compared to SHOs- job security, more 'senior' post, less night work
>Compared to SpRs- not having to rotate, choice of hospital to work in, less
>likely to do nights or on call. Associate specialists are on a much more
>consultoid contract.
>Compared to consultant- no on call, less paperwork, more clinical role.
>Compared to general practice- different speciality- depends what you like.
>
>> what are the negative aspects of being an NCCG?
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>Pay, perceived status sometimes, unsocial hours
>
>> what ongoing training is necessary for NCCGs?
>
>CPD as for consultants. We sent NCCGs for an afternoon a month day release
>in addition to usual study leave. Unlike trainees, NCCGs are considered
>trained when they take up the post, and are not being trained for another
>post. Thus it is really CPD rather than training that is the issue.
>
>> who, in addition to the individual, is responsible for that training?
>
>Medical director as for consultants (other people may advise but are not
>responsible).
>
>> oh and can we have more money please as the shos are leaving
>> us behind.
>>
>
>Put it in your letter to Santa and you never know. Improvement in terms for
>NCCGs seems to be a low priority for the BMA and the DH at present.
>
>Matt Dunn
>Warwick
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