medieval-religion: Scholarly discussions of medieval religion and culture
Please - for those of us whose Latin is not too smart, could those seeking
sources of quotations append a translation, please ? Even if we don't know
the answer, it's just too tantalising ....
Brenda.
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From: "John Mundy" <[log in to unmask]>
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Sent: Monday, August 12, 2002 1:57 PM
Subject: Re: [M-R] source of a text passage
medieval-religion: Scholarly discussions of medieval religion and culture
Dear list and especially Tom Izbicki: The text I've searched for in
vain in Migne, etc. is the following - a reference in my really quite
old notes for a course on ecclesiologial and political theories (!):
Augustine's De ordine 2, 4: "Unde Augustinus dicit, quod hoc facit
meretrix in mundo, quod sentina in mari, vel cloaca in
palatio: 'Tolle cloacam, et replebis foetore palatium, et similiter
de sentina; tolle meretrices de mundo, et replebis ipsum sodomia.'
Propter quam causam idem Augustinus ait in quartodecimo De Civitate
Dei, quod 'terrena civitas usum scortorum licitam turpitudinem
fecit.'"
I had the suspicion that this came from Gregory the Great's Moralia,
but could not find it there either. I don't thlink it is in the De
ordine either. The "terrena civitas" passage is indeed in the De
civitate dei.
It is obvious that I could not have invented this passage.
Thanks for your help. Yours, John Mundy
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