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>From: Pecia <[log in to unmask]>
>La question de l'antiquité de la troménie reste complexe.Tradition,
>légendes et histoire s'y entremêlent.
One could say the same thing about the cults of Irish saints. One could also
suggest a role for politics, too! Speaking of Irish, Ronan could be an Irish
name, since "rónan" is an Irish word meaning "little seal," though that
doesn't prove that it was the name of an Irishman who spent time in
Armorica.
>Le témoignage le plus ancien du culte liturgique de saint Renan se trouve
>être le missel dit de "Bréventec" (diocèse de Léon), du XIIIème siècle
>(fête au 1er juin). Il ne figure pas dans les anciennes litanies bretonnes
>du Xème s. Pour la Cornouaille, seuls quelques livres du XVème en font
>honneur. Sa "vita" pourrait être l'oeuvre de l'évêque Bernard de Moelan
>(connu aussi sous le nom de Bernard de Chartres, frère de Thierry), donc du
>XIIème s.
So, then, even though Renan doesn't appear in the earliest lists, would you
say that all the evidence comes from Breton sources--though that from
Cornouaille dates to a period of increasing French influence, culminating in
the marriage of Charles VII (France) and Anne (Breizh) and the union of the
states?
>Le nom même de Locronan, avec péfixe "Loc-", "lieu consacré à" est de
>période récente dans la formation des paroisses bretonnes.
I didn't know this. Thank you.
>Pourtant il est certain que se trouve à Locronan un "nemeton", minihy (lieu
>d'asile) de type "celtique". Pour le reste ...
Understood: the answer is lost in the mist. Thank you for the information
and the sources you cited.
Francine Nicholson
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