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Christopher,
The first image I have (or both?) must be a detail of the
original plate, but I remember it was a one-page reproduction, whether
that's the whole document or not. I don't have the book near me any
more, so I can't check how much was actually printed there. Good points
about Diplomatica457, though. Thanks for all the work and information.
Deborah
Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2002 09:18:49 MST
From: Christopher Crockett <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Virtual Maurist book exhibit
medieval-religion: Scholarly discussions of medieval religion and
culture
"Shepherd, Deborah" <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>http://www.hmml.org/resources/Maurists/Diplomatica457.htm
This seems to be a papal bull by Nicholas I to Emperor Louis II,
written on papyrus, dated 863 AD. There was a synod at Metz in June 863
which recognized Lothair II's [second] marriage to Waldraga [he had had
an earlier wife repudiated], but Nicholas suspected bribery and
excommunicated the prelates involved. Could this document be connected
to that controversy? =
perhaps, but now that i look at it more closely, it appears to be but a
fragment of the bull --just the introductory lines and [from
"--scriptum,=
" the
second line from the bottom] the conclusion (both of these parts of a
cha=
rter
have special names, which i've conveniently forgotten). =
though some of the charters which Mabillon published have historical
importance in and of themselves, his primary interest here --and
througho=
ut
this book-- is in offering his audience of potential palaeographers
sampl=
e
scripts, together with possible transcriptions.
his transcription is provided below each line --nearly each letter-- in
a=
more
legible script, in the hope that, given the two in close juxtapostion
the=
hapless student might be able to figure out how to read the maned
origina=
l.
this bull seems to be addressed to "delictis fratribus et filiis nostri
=
in
venerabili monasterio Sancti christi martyris Dionysii sub regule sancti
Benedicti religios a conuersatione de gentibus..."
we are not given the substance of the bull which follows.
>http://www.hmml.org/resources/Maurists/Diplomatica425.htm
I think this is a charter by Charlemagne and may be the first
instance of the use of the seal stating his imperial title.
which explains why M. reproduced the seal itself (that's Big Chuck there
=
in
profile, with the incredible Schnozzola [a technical term for a nose of
appropriately Imperial proportions]), as well as the Emperor's monogram
("Karolvs", on the top line).
no interlinear transcription given here, the emphesis apparently on the
f=
orm
of the closing appartus of the charter, and the placement of the seal in
=
the
text ("en plaquette," i.e., affixed to the body of the parchement itself
rather than hanging by a seperate strip of parchment or a cord [like a
bu=
ll]
or "lacs de soi," as later practice would have it).
that's how they look to me, anyway.
christopher
Deborah J. Shepherd, Ph.D.
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