One of the two main characters in Gregg Araki's indie gay road movie The
Living End is a movie critic.
geoff
Hi - I'm trying to uncover any films featuring film critics. =
Apparently there is a French film where a critic rights a review of a =
film he has never seen, but i'm unaware of the title. Anyone know?
thanks
davie
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> Topics of the day:
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> 1. Critics in Films (3)
> 2. critics in films (4)
> 3. Referential meaning & Dead Man
> 4. Eyes Wide Shut/Auteur-Milieu
> 5. Indifference, Enjoyment, & Canons
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> Date: Fri, 6 Dec 2002 13:07:45 EST
> From: Richard Armstrong <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: Critics in Films
>
> Hi David,
> Try Play it Again, Sam in which Woody Allen plays a Bogart-obsessed
critic,
> and Stardust Memories, in which there are a number of NY critics in the
> opening scene.
> Richard
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> Date: Fri, 6 Dec 2002 18:10:56 -0000
> From: Sergio Angelini <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: Re: critics in films
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> I can't help with the French movie I'm afraid, but in PLAY IT AGAIN SAM =
> Woody Allen plays a film critic if that helps...
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> Date: Fri, 6 Dec 2002 10:12:31 -0800
> From: Hans Heydebreck <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: Re: critics in films
>
> I'm trying to uncover any films featuring film
> critics. Apparently there is a French film where a
> critic rights a review of a film he has never seen,
> but i'm unaware of the title. Anyone know?
>
>
> ____
>
> Hello,
> there=B4s of course Leonard Maltin more or less as
> himself in Joe Dantes "Gremlins II: The new batch", a
> terrific film IMHO.
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> Date: Fri, 6 Dec 2002 13:16:16 -0500
> From: John Matturri <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: Re: Critics in Films
>
> Assayas' Irma Vep has a hilarious scene in which a critic interviews
> Maggie Cheung (playing herself) and rants about how boring French films
are.
>
> John M.
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> Date: Fri, 6 Dec 2002 10:56:08 -0800
> From: Tosh <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: Re: Critics in Films
>
> Jean-Luc Godard. His History of Cinema series.
> --
> Tosh Berman
> TamTam Books
> http://www.tamtambooks.com
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> Date: Sat, 7 Dec 2002 08:12:48 +1300
> From: "Tery (Teo) Hardwicke" <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: Referential meaning & Dead Man
>
> Hi all, I've been out here dwelling on the fringes for some time.......
>
> I was wondering if anyone has come across anything (or has any thoughts)
on
>
> the Referential Theory of Meaning in J.Jarmusch's 'Dead Man' ?
>
> Tery
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> > Jean-Luc Godard. His History of Cinema series.
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> > Tosh Berman
> > TamTam Books
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> Date: Fri, 6 Dec 2002 20:29:08 -0500
> From: Sarah Barmak <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: Re: Eyes Wide Shut/Auteur-Milieu
>
> > Isn't Kubrick's point that, based on a story set in Vienna, the NYC of
> Eyes
> > Wide Shut is supposed to be a little askew? And dreamlike? I suspect
the
> > milieu of EWS is less real than Kubrickian, if I might characterize such
> an
> > auteur-milieu. As we know, some films inhabit cinematic territories.
> > Richard
>
> Exactly...I was going to make this same point, but I wasn't sure if I was
> right. Thanks, Richard.
>
> Sarah
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> Date: Sat, 7 Dec 2002 12:41:34 +1100
> From: Ross Macleay <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: Re: Indifference, Enjoyment, & Canons
>
> Mark wrote
>
> > There's another form of puritanism at work here that I find
> > disconcerting: a perplexing denial of the power of the frivolous or the
> > obvious, as if the body and its urgings are an annoyance to be
> > belittled.
>
> Thank you Mark for not being able to let my comments pass without turning
> the tables on them. I certainly did not mean to imply such a perplexing
> puritanism - a kind of pompous reverse puritanism. The movies and the
other
> arts would be stupid, dismal and not art without the silly, the frivolous,
> and the whole human animal.
>
> > Human judgement is brought to bear on every canon we encounter, at
> > the personal level, when we decide whether, or to what degree, a given
> > canon has any relevance relative to our pre-existing biases. So, given
> > the diversity of individual experiences and backgrounds, by definition
> > there CAN be no universal canon.
> >
>
> I think my point is that a canon is neither universal, nor quite human.
That
> is, it is primarily a particular social phenomenon - to be precise a
> lineage of individual judgements - (a bit like a species in biology is not
a
> universal but a lineage of related organisms), rather than a psychic or
> personal one (ie each one of those communicative actions of judgement).
> Certainly I think we can judge a canon (or the canon), and we can describe
> one, by observing and describing society. And we take that description on
as
> our own claim about the nature of cinematic society, or as our own list of
> favourites or great works. Such a list though is not the same thing as a
> canon, the primary provenance of which remains as that extra-individual
> object, society.
>
> These (probably poorly expressed thoughts) on the distinction between
> society (including the canon) and psyche (including personal judgements)
> take their cue from Niklas Luhmann's writing in books like _Social
Systems_
> and _Observations on Modernity_.
>
> As for objectivity and subjectivity, these are terms with can-of-worms
> connotations (connotations that have multiplied and transformed and grown
> monstrous and no longer remain anything like the old Kantian distinction).
> Put them in scare quotes and they scare me even more. I am not at all sure
> what such a beast as an objective opinion could be.
>
> I think all judgements are the judgements of a subject, by a subject, for
a
> subject. Objects are what judgements purport to be about. Subjects are
> always interested. And disinterested subjects can only be subjects who
have
> made interest, and their interest as subjects, into objects of their
> judgement as well. That is they have tried to solve the problems of
> subjective interest by objectifying them - or by what Walter Benjamin
calls
> the old dialecticians way - that of multiplying them.
>
> Ross
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> Date: Sat, 7 Dec 2002 12:45:13 +1100
> From: Ross Macleay <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: Re: critics in films
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> character played by Francis O'Connor who spends her time trying to get =
> into a course run by the Australian film critic Adrian Martin. He, the =
> character 'Adrian', makes a brief appearance at a party. I think he =
> announces that the course, which O'Connor has finally managed to get =
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> Date: Fri, 6 Dec 2002 23:34:21 -0800
> From: Robert Koehler <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: Re: critics in films
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> This is a great tip! Haven't caught this one; Adrian is one of my =
> absolute favorite critics. Which reminds me: In all of the recent =
> discussion here about film criticism and its value, anyone on this site =
> should read Adrian's reviews and writing. He can be read at the Sun =
> newspaper (Melbourne, I believe) and the wonderful Senses of Cinema =
> website. Look for his new book next year with Jonathan Rosenbaum, which =
> comprises an ongoign discussion (via letter, email, etc) with young film =
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> <DIV><FONT size=3D2>This is a great tip! Haven't caught this one; Adrian =
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> book next=20
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