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Subject:

VICTORIA Digest - 10 Jun 2002 to 11 Jun 2002 (#2002-161) (fwd)

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Jane Ennis <[log in to unmask]>

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Date: 12 June 2002 00:00 -0500
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Subject: VICTORIA Digest - 10 Jun 2002 to 11 Jun 2002 (#2002-161)

There are 14 messages totalling 393 lines in this issue.

Topics of the day:

  1. Col. Brine
  2. Social Darwinism
  3. Grant Allen's Stories
  4. VICTORIA Digest - 9 Jun 2002 to 10 Jun 2002 (#2002-160)
  5. Ideology of the Salon goer (3)
  6. Military records and commissions
  7. Americans as a Threat to English Society & Class (5)
  8. Americans as Threat to English Society

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Date:    Tue, 11 Jun 2002 08:31:15 +0100
From:    Jill Grey <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: Col. Brine

A Lieutenant John J. Brine appears in The East-India Register and Army List,
1850 which I happen to have to hand. He served in the 4th Madras Native
Infantry (appointed 1841) - a regiment of the East India Company's Army. The
Oriental and India Office Collections at the British Library should hold his
military service record and possibly records of any marriage(s), baptisms of
children and family burials in India. Subsequent editions of the E-India
Register and/or Indian Army Lists would give dates of later commissions and
any noteworthy actions during service. Mormon Family History Centres
worldwide will obtain microfilmed copies of these records for you, although
you might have to wait some weeks for them.

Since no J.Brine appears in Hart's Army List, 1862 or 1873 (also to hand),
you might assume that this J.J.Brine is the officer you're looking for and
that he didn't serve in a British regiment.

The following websites provide a pretty good idea of available material and
professional researchers at the BL, should you be unable to travel to
London....

www.bl.uk/collections/oiocfamilyhistory/family.html
www.ozemail.com.au/~clday/

Jill
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Date:    Tue, 11 Jun 2002 13:18:59 +0200
From:    neil davie <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: Social Darwinism

Hello R.J.

Although its focus is not purely literary, the following book does =
contain a useful discussion of the impact of Social Darwinism on the =
19th century novel in both England and France:
Daniel Pick, *Faces of Degeneration: A European Disorder, =
c.1848-c.1918*, Cambridge: Cambridge University Press, 1989.

The chapter on the English novel opens with a quote from Conan Doyle's =
*The Lost World*: "Suddenly it rained apes". There follows a fascinating =
analysis of this and other works suffused with the tenets of Social =
Darwinism (Wells' *The Time Machine*, Stevenson's *Jeckyll and Hyde*, =
Stoker's *Dracula*, etc.).=20

Best wishes,

             Neil Davie

Universit=E9 Paris 7, Paris, France.([log in to unmask])

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Date:    Tue, 11 Jun 2002 12:32:29 +0100
From:    Bevis benneworth <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: Grant Allen's Stories

Dear List; I am trying to track down a story by Grant Allen in which a man
marries a Creole woman who practices voodoo.  Does anyone know the title?
Thank you,
Melisa Summy Dept. of English
Miami University Oxford, Ohio

That is The Beckoning Hand from " The Beckoning Hand and Other stories"
published by Chatto and Windus in 1887

TI- The beckoning hand and other stories
AU- Allen Grant
PU- London : Chatto and Windus, 1887
PY- 1887
PD- 341, 32 p : frontis ; 20 cm
LA- English
NT- "Author of 'Strange stories,' 'In all shades,' 'Philistia,' etc."
    Includes 32 pp. of advertisements at end of volume
    "With a frontispiece by Townley Green"

B Benneworth.
 Oxford England



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Date:    Tue, 11 Jun 2002 08:48:20 +0100
From:    "D.A.Reid" <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: VICTORIA Digest - 9 Jun 2002 to 10 Jun 2002 (#2002-160)

Date:    Mon, 10 Jun 2002 17:12:12 +0000From:    Paula Gillett
<[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: music in schools

Another subject that seems relevant is the use of "folksongs" in public
elementary schools.  See "The 'discovery' of 'folksong'" in <Fakesong::
the Manufacture of British 'Folksong': 1700 to the Present Day," by
Dave Harker(Milton Keynes, 1985): 178-184.

Paula Gillett
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Dear Paula et al,

The authority of Harker's text has been thoroughly undermined by a
recent PhD thesis: C.J.Bearman, 'The English Folk Music Movement,
1898-1914' (University of Hull, 2002), the fifth chapter of which (pp.
178-205) deals with folk music in education.

See also C.J.Bearman, 'Cecil Sharp in Somerset: some reflections on the
work of David Harker', Folklore, 113 (2002), 11-34.

Douglas Reid, Senior Lecturer in Economic & Social History, University
of Hull.                                           [log in to unmask]

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Date:    Tue, 11 Jun 2002 05:45:05 -0700
From:    Beth Harris <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Ideology of the Salon goer

You might want to have a look at Richard Shiff's
_Cezanne and the End of Impressionism_, Robert
Herbert's _Impressionism_, and Stephen Kern's _Eyes of
Love. The Gaze in English and French Paintings and
Novels." And perhaps even Clement Greenberg.

Beth Harris
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Date:    Tue, 11 Jun 2002 09:03:06 -0400
From:    Stephen Arata <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: Ideology of the Salon goer

Jonathan Crary's superb _Suspensions of Perception_ (1999) is also relevant
to this topic.

--Steve

At 05:45 AM 6/11/02 -0700, you wrote:
> You might want to have a look at Richard Shiff's
> _Cezanne and the End of Impressionism_, Robert
> Herbert's _Impressionism_, and Stephen Kern's _Eyes of
> Love. The Gaze in English and French Paintings and
> Novels." And perhaps even Clement Greenberg.
>
> Beth Harris
> [log in to unmask]
>
> __________________________________________________
> Do You Yahoo!?
> Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup
> http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com
>
>
---------------------------------
Stephen Arata
Associate Professor of English
University of Virginia
434-924-7105 (phone)
434-924-1478 (fax)

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Date:    Tue, 11 Jun 2002 10:01:36 -0400
From:    Suzy Anger <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: Ideology of the Salon goer

        Judith Stoddart's essay "Tracking the Sentimental Eye" in Anger,
_Knowing the Past_ (2001) takes up exactly these issues--with lots
of reference to Victorian writing on art-- in a consideration of Victorian
sentimental genre paintings.  She's writing a book on related topics.
        See also Jonathan Crary, _Techniques of the Observer: On Vision
and Modernity in the Nineteenth Century_ (1990).

Suzy Anger
University of Maryland, Baltimore County

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Date:    Tue, 11 Jun 2002 16:16:12 +0100
From:    Jill Grey <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Military records and commissions

Roberto Ferrari's query about [Colonel] Brine prompts me to add a note about
searches for military records...

As Sally Mitchell has pointed out, full service records for officers and men
serving with British regiments are generally kept at the PRO in Kew who have
helpfully provided a quick (new) search facility at
http://catalogue.pro.gov.uk/BasicSearch.asp . All that's required initially,
apart from a name, is WO (War Office) in the department codes search box.

Records for most E.India Company and Indian Army officers will be in the
India Office collections at the BL although after the post-Indian
mutiny/Sepoy rebellion regimental reshuffle, men were offered a choice : to
retire or to sign up with designated British regiments. Records for men
choosing the latter would be in the PRO.

With very few exceptions Madras regiments saw little, if any action in the
field around the time of the Mutiny, and many officers were stuck with their
ranks for years at a time. It's probable that in the 20 or so years between
1850 and retirement, an officer such as Lt Brine would have been promoted to
Captain and Major and been pensioned off as a Lieutenant Colonel, giving him
good reason thereafter to call himself Colonel.

Apologies to those with no interest in military matters. I've become rather
interested in the tedium of cantonment life in 19th Century India !

Jill
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Date:    Tue, 11 Jun 2002 17:16:35 +0100
From:    "M. Mendelssohn" <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Americans as a Threat to English Society & Class

Hi,

I'm wondering if anyone might be so kind as to direct me to primary or
secondary sources dealing with the way in which Americans were
received/perceived by English Society in the 19th c., especially in 1880s
& 1890s.

I'm particularly interested in the ways in which the English though
Americans to be socially subversive, or how American social climbing
(especially through marriage with old but penniless aristocrats) would
have been perceived as an attack on or affront to distinctions of class.
How socially subversive was it to marry an American in this period?

Also, how anxious were the English about American tourists "buying up"
Europe to take it back to America -- as Adam Verver does in _The Golden
Bowl_? Is this anxiety documented elsewhere?

Best,

Michèle Mendelssohn
King's College, Cambridge

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Date:    Tue, 11 Jun 2002 12:50:20 -0400
From:    Marylu Hill <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Americans as Threat to English Society

One very funny take on the issue of Americans entering British society is
Oscar Wilde's "The Canterville Ghost."
Good luck with it!
Marylu Hill
Core Humanities Program
Villanova University

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Date:    Tue, 11 Jun 2002 09:51:07 -0700
From:    "Peter H. Wood" <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: Americans as a Threat to English Society & Class

    The ambivalent attitude of late-Victorian English society to Americans,
both felt to be a "threat" and at the same time a possible ally of great
value in the struggle for world hegemony by the "Anglo-Saxon" races can be
seen in the works of Sir Arthur Conan Doyle. In the Sherlock Holmes stories
both are explicitly stated in "The Noble Bachelor"; the "threat" is seen in
"A Study in Scarlet", "The Red Circle", "The Dancing Men", "The Three
Garridebs", "The Valley of Fear" and "His Last Bow". There are also several
similar depictions of Americans in ACD's non-Sherlockian works; a satirical
poem against the buying-up of English antiquities is also in his collected
verses.
    He was not alone in his beliefs or in their expression, but is one
instance of a contemporary English writer with whom I am familiar.
Peter Wood
<[log in to unmask]>



M. Mendelssohn wrote
> I'm wondering if anyone might be so kind as to direct me to primary or
> secondary sources dealing with the way in which Americans were
> received/perceived by English Society in the 19th c., especially in 1880s
> & 1890s.
>
> I'm particularly interested in the ways in which the English though
> Americans to be socially subversive, or how American social climbing
> (especially through marriage with old but penniless aristocrats) would
> have been perceived as an attack on or affront to distinctions of class.
> How socially subversive was it to marry an American in this period?
>
> Also, how anxious were the English about American tourists "buying up"
> Europe to take it back to America -- as Adam Verver does in _The Golden
> Bowl_? Is this anxiety documented elsewhere?

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Date:    Tue, 11 Jun 2002 20:25:58 EDT
From:    Tom Kennney <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: Americans as a Threat to English Society & Class

It's a little earlier than 1880s, but Martin Chuzzlewit (1844) by Dickens
deals in a large part with Dickens's impressions of 19th century America.
His American Notes also records his impressions of his travels in America.


Tom Kenney
Doctoral Student
Fordham University
Bronx, NY
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Date:    Tue, 11 Jun 2002 20:39:17 EDT
From:    [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: Americans as a Threat to English Society & Class

The book "To Marry an English Lord" by MacColl and Wallace deals with rich
American daughters marrying (usually) penniless aristocrats and thus
diluting the english upper class. And looks at the reverse aspect of the
"selling" of titles.

Stephanie Wahl

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Date:    Tue, 11 Jun 2002 20:53:18 EDT
From:    [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: Americans as a Threat to English Society & Class

Anthony Trollope addresses this issue in both his short fiction and in some
of his novels, such as _The Duke's Children_.

MEB

Dr. Miriam Elizabeth Burstein
Dept. of English
SUNY Brockport
Brockport NY 14420
http://www.acs.brockport.edu/~mburstei
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