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Subject:

Re: Access Barriers to Footpaths

From:

"vin.west" <[log in to unmask]>

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Accessibuilt list <[log in to unmask]>

Date:

Fri, 1 Feb 2002 16:14:54 -0000

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I don't believe the crosbie gate would present any difficulties for either
sensory impaired or learning impaired users - the counter-balance means that
the slightest push makes the gate rise, so anyone attempting to open it
'normally' would immediately either see or feel the upward movement.

the only problem might arise from the locking mechanism, which transfers the
locked state from one end to the other, but again, it is a simple push
handle and with the use of colour and texture could be made very easy to
locate

Vin
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ms Chris Platt-Evans" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Friday, February 01, 2002 11:38 AM
Subject: Re: Access Barriers to Footpaths


> Whilst enabling access by wheelchair users is important let's not forget
the
> needs of people with other impairments.
>
> What about visually impaired people for whom any barrier restricting
> headroom is likely to present a collision hazard at head height that will
> not be identified by either assistance dog or long cane, a gate that
> operates in a different way to the majority of other gates (ie cantelever
> rather than swing) is also likely to be difficult for people with visual
> impairments or learning difficulties to understand and negotiate.  The
width
> is also likely to be an issue when considering people using other walking
> aids such as stick(s), crutches or frames, as well as for those with
> assistance dogs.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Bracewell, Robert [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
> Sent: 01 February 2002 09:29
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: Access Barriers to Footpaths
>
>
> Louise,
>
> I am not happy with their claims and not even convinced that it would stop
a
> motorcycle that effectively. As a manual wheelchair user - with very wide
> shoulders - I would not find negotiating it an easy, or welcome task. How
> they
> are expecting motorised wheelchairs to negotiate it is anyone's guess. I
> haven't
> come across this design, so I guess my comments are subjective at present.
> There
> are some alternate designs offered in the BT "Countryside for All" book,
> though
> none are an ideal solution, they may give another perspective.
>
> Rob
>
> ____________________________________________
>
> Rob Bracewell BA (Hon's)
> Access Officer
> Lancaster City Council
> Palatine Hall,
> Dalton Square,
> Lancaster,
> LA1 1PW
> Tel. 01524 582372
> Minicom. 01524 582317 (please use announcer)
> Fax. 01524 582323
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mersey Disability [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
> Sent: 31 January 2002 15:01
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Access Barriers to Footpaths
>
>
> Hi there,
> Any help with the issue below would be welcomed.  The council are being
very
> pro-active and are keen to enable as many people as possible to use the
> paths in their area, and have a committment to getting work underway as
soon
> as they can identify the best product for the job.  Whilst the
manufacturer
> has said the barriers are suitable for motorised wheelchairs it would be
> helpful if anyone has direct expereince of using them to comment.  Also
the
> manufacturers have said that the barriers are no suitable for anyone using
a
> motorised chair or buggy with a canopy.
> If anyone knows of other, better products, or has seen this one in
operation
> please let me know.
> Louise Barry.
>
> The issue;
>
> The council engineering department have been asked to make safe a footpath
> on the edge of an estate in Knowsley,
>
> The footpath needs to be secure as the route is to be promoted as a safe
> route
> enabling  primary aged children to travel to school on foot.
>
> At present there are problems with youths on quad bikes and motor cycles
> speeding
> along this path. In order to alleviate this problem and make the path safe
> from speeding vehicles I intend to erect Motorcycle Access Barriers at a
> number of access points
> onto the path.
>
> The manufacturer of the Three Valleys Access Barrier
> (www.fearntruckbodies.co.uk)  has advised that these barriers will allow
> access for motorised wheelchair users.
>
> Has anyone come across these structures on footpaths?
>
> Has anyone encountered difficulty negotiating the barrier?
>
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