medieval-religion: Scholarly discussions of medieval religion and culture
On a tour of the ruins of Jervaulx abbey connected with the Leeds congress,
the guide commented that the remains of the garderobes occasionally got
mistaken for prisons.
I also am adding the chapter list for Logan's book mentioned in another
message.
Logan, F. Donald.
Runaway religious in Medieval England, c. 1240-1540 / F. Donald Logan.
Cambridge ; New York : Cambridge University Press, 1996.
xix, 301 p. : ill. ; 23 cm.
Cambridge studies in medieval life and thought 4th ser., 32
Includes bibliographical references (p. 268-276) and indexes.
Contents
1. A question of terms -- 2. Legal alternatives -- 3. Two
questions: how many? and
why? -- 4. The secular arm -- 5. Return and reconciliation --
6. The 1530s -- App.
1 Petition for writ de apostata capiendo -- App. 2 Writ de
apostata capiendo --
App. 3 The use of the secular arm directly and without royal
writ -- App. 4 The
Compendium compertorum and disaffected religious -- App. 5
Register of
apostates, 1240-1530.
At 10:33 AM 10/10/2001 -0700, you wrote:
>medieval-religion: Scholarly discussions of medieval religion and culture
>
>"Maeve B. Callan" <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>
> >Does anyone know of any studies on imprisonment within religious
>orders (of members/by members)?
>
>no.
>
>but i was recently in contact with a friend of mine who lives in Pontigny (the
>village, not the church), who related that she's been enlisted by
>the local monuments alcoholiques (my characterisation, not hers) authorities
>to "oversee" the mechanized "excavation" of a new sewer line just beyond the
>front gate of the monastery.
>
>she mentioned that they had uncovered some fairly massive walls which she
>thought might be for some kind of prison.
>
>this put me in mind of the largish stone just outside the gate to the "palace"
>of the bishops of Chartres (just Northeast of the cathedral), which has an
>iron ring attached to the top of it.
>
>local tradition (i don't know where i heard the story) apparently has it that
>prisoners were chained to this stone while awaiting Justice at the Bishop's
>Court.
>
>that's a bit of a stretch, perhaps, but abbots would have Justice Rights over
>the property which their house owned, just as bishops (or any other lord of
>the land) did; and a place to keep the Bad Guys nailed down
>before --and after-- "Justice" was delivered would be a necessity, i should
>think.
>
>idle thought.
>
>best from here,
>
>christopher
>
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