medieval-religion: Scholarly discussions of medieval religion and culture
Jo-Ann McNamara <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>Sorry. I can't answer this. I came by this information by accident
when reading a number of books on different aspects of 17th century
spirituality in the context of my history of nuns. After a while it struck me
how often accounts of particular convents or communities mentioned Anne of
Austria's efforts to get their help. Since it is not a female community,
Chartres would have been outside my scope.
thanks.
i suppose that, though not a member of a female community, it would be
surprising if Our Lady of [the cathedral of] Chartres --with her
miracle-working, *specifically childbirth-related* relic-- would *not* have
been enlisted in a kingdom-wide enlistment of spirtual aid with the upcomming
Royal Blessed Event.
but a little actual evidence always helps with these danged suppositions, no
matter how "obvious" they may be.
the sale of "chemisette" souviners at Chartres, specific for
childbirthing as well as other ailments and dangers, persisted at least into
the 19th c., i believe i read somewhere.
shucks, if i were a believer, headed for the Maw of the trenches of the First
Collective Psychotic Episode, i'd definitely want to be carrying
one of those little replicas next to my heart.
thanks again, Jo Ann.
best from here,
christopher
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From: Christopher Crockett <[log in to unmask]>
To: [log in to unmask] <[log in to unmask]>
Date: Wednesday, September 19, 2001 1:17 PM
Subject: Re: [M-R] [Re: [M-R] saints of the day 19. September]
medieval-religion: Scholarly discussions of medieval religion and culture
Jo-Ann McNamara <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>...When she actually went into labor, every important relic was sent to
attend the accouchement....And Anne was most grateful. Major gifts went
to them all.
just curious, does your source happen to mention a relic from Chartres?
the _tunica_ or _camisa_ of the Virgin, thought to be the garment she
wore at her own birthing day was, among other things, believed to have
special
potency for women in labor and, apparently, small replicas were sold to
expectant mothers from at least the late middle ages.
the present relic, essentially a long piece of cloth,
http://ariadne.org/centrechartraine/voile/voile.html , appears to be
somewhat
different from that which was thought to have been there in the M.A., which
was actually in the form of a shirt/nightgown/"chemise", here seen in a 1696
ms. painting of the arms of the Chapter:
http://ariadne.org/centrechartraine/voile/1696_Armes.jpg
(cf. Yves Delaporte on the relic and pilgrimage associated with it:
http://ariadne.org/centrechartraine/voile/dghe-8v.html , with the note at
the
bottom of the page by Jim Bugslag citing a 1477 inventory from Fontevrault:
'1477, quatre chemises de linge de la Vierge de Chartres.')
did Anne have the benefit of one of these?
best from here,
christopher
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