I agree that one-to-one is a a topic to be avoided, and there could be a reason
for new qualifiers(!!), but that's a tough road, too.
Still, the definition:
> Definition: A date associated with an event in the life cycle of the
> resource.
> Comment: Typically, Date will be associated with the creation or
> availability of the resource. Recommended best practice
> for encoding the date value is defined in a profile of
> ISO 8601 [W3CDTF] and follows the YYYY-MM-DD format.
does not end the discussion. There is also that complex "Relation" field, along
with the forgotten "Source" field. The examples have lots of dates in them, all
relating to differing versions, or sources of information. We shouldn't forget
"Coverage", either.
I am sad to say that after looking at the definitions, I think that "Date"
refers to the creation of the resource and not to the creation of the
intellectual content. In this way, it refers more to (in cataloging terms)
"editions" or "printings" than to the originals.
Is this really so bad? If a new edition of Hemingway's "Old Man and the Sea"
comes out in 2001, we don't add the date of the first printing.
The dates of intellectual creation should probably go into Relation or Source.
Jim Weinheimer
Princeton University
"Rebecca S. Guenther" wrote:
>
> I sympathize with your plight. This issue has come up time and time again.
> There was a proposal from a project suggesting that new qualifiers be
> approved for "Date.Digitized" and "Date.Original" for this very situation.
> (It didn't get too far.) And there is a long history behind the
> controversy about whether a Dublin Core record should describe only the
> digitized and another is needed for the original (the "one-to-one"
> controversy-- PLEASE let's not discuss that).
>
> I would agree with you that the date of interest to you in these
> situations for resource discovery is the date of the original. And Dublin
> Core is intended for resource discovery. Date is defined as:
>
> Name: Date
> Identifier: Date
> Definition: A date associated with an event in the life cycle of the
> resource.
> Comment: Typically, Date will be associated with the creation or
> availability of the resource. Recommended best practice
> for encoding the date value is defined in a profile of
> ISO 8601 [W3CDTF] and follows the YYYY-MM-DD format.
>
> That certainly allows you to use Creation date in the Date field; I would
> argue that it is general enough to allow you to interpret the creation
> date as either original or digitized creation, but you aren't able to
> distinguish between those two. The following qualifiers for date are
> approved:
> Created
> Valid
> Available
> Issued
> Modified
> Maybe your digitized date would fit into another category (Date Issued?).
>
> Of course, it is not clear from your message whether you're using Dublin
> Core unqualified or qualified. If unqualified (which is what I think
> you're asking about), then you certainly could use DC.Date, since the
> discovery date for creation that you're interested in is the date the
> intellectual content was created (original date).
>
> The Date element is a real problem in the DC element set and there have
> been numerous criticisms about its lack of specificity. Without knowing
> what type of date it is can make it almost useless. So I would at least
> use the date that is of most interest to your application.
>
> Rebecca
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> > Date: Wed, 2 May 2001 10:18:56 +0200
> > From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Hilde_H=F8g=E5s?= <[log in to unmask]>
> > Subject: Date for digitized objects
> >
> > Dear all,
> >
> > At the present I am working wiht DC for digitized objects, for instance a
> > digitized radio broadcasting, a photo or a sound recording. I have a problem
> > with the date for digitized objects. As I read the DC definitions and "Using
> > Dublin Core", DC.Date should be used for the "instantiation", or the version
> > "in-hand". Would this imply that DC.Date for digitized object should contain
> > the digitizing date?
> >
> > If this a correct interpretation, then my problem is that this date is of no
> > (or little) interest to the user. The interesting date is the date of the
> > original, the broadcasting date or the date the photo was taken. Where do I
> > put this kind of date? It could belong to DC.Source and one of my present
> > ideas is to add a local qualifier to Source, something like Source.Date for
> > the date of the original.
> >
> > Doos anyone "out there" have a good answer to my problem? (I do apologize if
> > the matter has been discussed on the list before.)
> >
> > I appreciate your help!
> >
> > Hilde
> > ___________________________________
> > Hilde Hoegaas
> > IT-dept. National Library of Norway, Rana Division
> > E-mail: [log in to unmask]
> >
> >
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