Dear Erminia
this is exactly the point, Muller's usage of 'stupid', in translation, and
the take some have followed on it, is quite close to the 'pazzi' or 'folli'
you mention. I think also it implies 'stupid' in a sense of being
'resistant' to easy explanations, glib summaries of things.
As for everyone going bonkers (just the guys?) I think that has something to
do with the world we all live in going bonkers around us.
Best
Dave
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Erminia Passannanti" <[log in to unmask]>
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Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2001 3:48 PM
Subject: Re: Back on Planet Earth
> Schizophrenics are not stupid, Dave, do not delude me: they are mad.(they
> have top-degrees and can be genius!!!)They are not idiotic, nor demented:
> they are "pazzi", "folli": do be diagnosed to be schizophrenic or maniac
> depressive does not mean , my God, to be an idiot or a stupid (which are
> equivalent of some brain lesions or pathology of the intelligence!)
>
> It takes such an effort to make you proceed logically and coherently,
guys,
> these days. You seemed to all have gone bonkers (don't know the exact
> spelling, but I think I grasped the meaning from some kind of gestures
> accompanying the term in its local UK usage)....
> What' s wrong with you this period. You all used to be quicker,
> brighter...more engaging, more seductive,....ah,
>
> (Martin/Robin (can't remember who did it), exclamations are made with a
> vowal followed by an "h", not vice versa!)
> I feel you should go and look up exactly in the dictionary what
> really "stupid" is, and means.
>
> But no, you do not need to do that: look the way you all are behaving - in
> relation to this simple elementary issue - and you will see what stupid
> actually mean: slow minded, retarded (not loopy neither schizo)
>
> Erminia
>
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