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Subject:

Re: Depression (an Ode)

From:

Erminia Passannanti <[log in to unmask]>

Reply-To:

Poetryetc provides a venue for a dialogue relating to poetry and poetics <[log in to unmask]>

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Sun, 18 Nov 2001 02:37:31 +0000

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Oh, no no, no no, no no, I say: better to speak nonsense than having your
licence, Gael!
As for the "old " saying, please do not let the dead revolt in their graves.

(So, David, what where you saying? Speak, our beloved one. We are
listening.)

Ermi



On Sat, 17 Nov 2001 13:33:05 -0000, david.bircumshaw
<[log in to unmask]> wrote:

>> To David,
>>
>> From an old saying, better not say anything than talk nonsense.
>>
>> Gaël.
>
>
>Well, I'm still waiting, Gaël. (Sorry for misspelling your name in my last)
>I can think of plenty of faults with that piece I wrote (and places where
it
>should go) but what's all this about not saying anything, why the
>behindbacks of sending your message
>b-c rather than upfront? There's only a tiny number of people I talk to in
>'private', you're not among them, so, again, explain why the piece is
>'nonsense', c'mon, talk in front of others.
>
>David Bircumshaw
>
>Leicester, England
>
>Home Page
>
>A Chide's Alphabet
>
>Painting Without Numbers
>
>www.paintstuff.20m.com/index.htm
>
>http://homepage.ntlworld.com/david.bircumshaw/index.htm
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "david.bircumshaw" <[log in to unmask]>
>To: <[log in to unmask]>
>Sent: Saturday, November 17, 2001 12:04 AM
>Subject: Re: Depression (an Ode)
>
>
>> Gail Grand did the classic thing of not replying to me front channel but
>> sending this little put down b-c. Now, whatever the faults of my
impromptu
>> piece, I don't think it's nonsense.
>>
>> Or aren't we allowed to say that anymore?
>>
>> By the way, Gail, what old saying?
>>
>>
>> David Bircumshaw
>>
>> Leicester, England
>>
>> Home Page
>>
>> A Chide's Alphabet
>>
>> Painting Without Numbers
>>
>> www.paintstuff.20m.com/index.htm
>>
>> http://homepage.ntlworld.com/david.bircumshaw/index.htm
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Gael Grand" <[log in to unmask]>
>> To: "david.bircumshaw" <[log in to unmask]>
>> Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 9:14 PM
>> Subject: Re: Depression (an Ode)
>>
>>
>> To David,
>>
>> From an old saying, better not say anything than talk nonsense.
>>
>> Gaël.
>> -----
>> >Do you know
>> >
>> >for the first three days
>> >after my mother died
>> >
>> >I couldn't even find
>> >where her body was
>> >
>> >this was because
>> >she was in the hands
>> >of professionals
>> >
>> >like arts administrators
>> >but I did know
>> >
>> >through an illiterate note
>> >from a care assistant
>> >
>> >what had happened
>> >
>> >to her teeth. Now that
>> >all of our world
>> >belongs to poison's
>> >
>> >morons, like a
>> >fulfilment
>> >
>> >of the American dream,
>> >there is a sort
>> >
>> >of comfort to be found
>> >in Universal (United) Notions
>> >(almost Leibniz-like)
>> >
>> >of stupidity, and a panegyric
>> >to be declared
>> >
>> >to the Stars and Stripes
>> >(in the true tradition of poets i.e. crawlers
>> >
>> >see Spenser see Dryden see Shakespeare's Sonnets)
>> >
>> >which I am now about to begin.
>> >It goes so:
>> >
>> >Fuck off America
>> >Go to Hell G Dubbya
>> >Rot in your saliva
>> >Tony Cocksucker
>> >
>> >(that's only a beginning I know but I swear it shows promise. I reckon
it
>> >needs interesting references to LangPo, apartment sublets in New York,
>> PoMo,
>>
>> >tenureships on creative writing courses, call centres, Kent Johnson,
>> cluster
>>
>> >bombs, messages from anthrax and Dante's Inferno)
>> >
>> >
>> >David Bircumshaw
>> >
>> >Leicester, England
>> >
>> >Home Page
>> >
>> >A Chide's Alphabet
>> >
>> >Painting Without Numbers
>> >
>> >www.paintstuff.20m.com/index.htm
>> >
>> >http://homepage.ntlworld.com/david.bircumshaw/index.htm
>> >
>> >
>> Gael Grand
>> mobile in France: 0670871750, int: +33670871750
>> mobile in the UK: 07810 317 750, int: +447810 317 750
>>
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And I say: better tos peak nonsense than having your licence,

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