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Oh, no no, no no, no no, I say: better to speak nonsense than having your licence, Gael! As for the "old " saying, please do not let the dead revolt in their graves. (So, David, what where you saying? Speak, our beloved one. We are listening.) Ermi On Sat, 17 Nov 2001 13:33:05 -0000, david.bircumshaw <[log in to unmask]> wrote: >> To David, >> >> From an old saying, better not say anything than talk nonsense. >> >> Gaël. > > >Well, I'm still waiting, Gaël. (Sorry for misspelling your name in my last) >I can think of plenty of faults with that piece I wrote (and places where it >should go) but what's all this about not saying anything, why the >behindbacks of sending your message >b-c rather than upfront? There's only a tiny number of people I talk to in >'private', you're not among them, so, again, explain why the piece is >'nonsense', c'mon, talk in front of others. > >David Bircumshaw > >Leicester, England > >Home Page > >A Chide's Alphabet > >Painting Without Numbers > >www.paintstuff.20m.com/index.htm > >http://homepage.ntlworld.com/david.bircumshaw/index.htm >----- Original Message ----- >From: "david.bircumshaw" <[log in to unmask]> >To: <[log in to unmask]> >Sent: Saturday, November 17, 2001 12:04 AM >Subject: Re: Depression (an Ode) > > >> Gail Grand did the classic thing of not replying to me front channel but >> sending this little put down b-c. Now, whatever the faults of my impromptu >> piece, I don't think it's nonsense. >> >> Or aren't we allowed to say that anymore? >> >> By the way, Gail, what old saying? >> >> >> David Bircumshaw >> >> Leicester, England >> >> Home Page >> >> A Chide's Alphabet >> >> Painting Without Numbers >> >> www.paintstuff.20m.com/index.htm >> >> http://homepage.ntlworld.com/david.bircumshaw/index.htm >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Gael Grand" <[log in to unmask]> >> To: "david.bircumshaw" <[log in to unmask]> >> Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 9:14 PM >> Subject: Re: Depression (an Ode) >> >> >> To David, >> >> From an old saying, better not say anything than talk nonsense. >> >> Gaël. >> ----- >> >Do you know >> > >> >for the first three days >> >after my mother died >> > >> >I couldn't even find >> >where her body was >> > >> >this was because >> >she was in the hands >> >of professionals >> > >> >like arts administrators >> >but I did know >> > >> >through an illiterate note >> >from a care assistant >> > >> >what had happened >> > >> >to her teeth. Now that >> >all of our world >> >belongs to poison's >> > >> >morons, like a >> >fulfilment >> > >> >of the American dream, >> >there is a sort >> > >> >of comfort to be found >> >in Universal (United) Notions >> >(almost Leibniz-like) >> > >> >of stupidity, and a panegyric >> >to be declared >> > >> >to the Stars and Stripes >> >(in the true tradition of poets i.e. crawlers >> > >> >see Spenser see Dryden see Shakespeare's Sonnets) >> > >> >which I am now about to begin. >> >It goes so: >> > >> >Fuck off America >> >Go to Hell G Dubbya >> >Rot in your saliva >> >Tony Cocksucker >> > >> >(that's only a beginning I know but I swear it shows promise. I reckon it >> >needs interesting references to LangPo, apartment sublets in New York, >> PoMo, >> >> >tenureships on creative writing courses, call centres, Kent Johnson, >> cluster >> >> >bombs, messages from anthrax and Dante's Inferno) >> > >> > >> >David Bircumshaw >> > >> >Leicester, England >> > >> >Home Page >> > >> >A Chide's Alphabet >> > >> >Painting Without Numbers >> > >> >www.paintstuff.20m.com/index.htm >> > >> >http://homepage.ntlworld.com/david.bircumshaw/index.htm >> > >> > >> Gael Grand >> mobile in France: 0670871750, int: +33670871750 >> mobile in the UK: 07810 317 750, int: +447810 317 750 >> >> *************************** ADVERTISEMENT ****************************** >> For ALL the latest Soccer news on your club, GAA sports results and the >> latest on your F1 stars plus much more check out >> http://sport.iol.ie/sport. Sport On-Line.... It's a passion >> And I say: better tos peak nonsense than having your licence,