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Re: FW: process vs. outcomes - language

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James Neill <[log in to unmask]>

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James Neill <[log in to unmask]>

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Wed, 21 Nov 2001 10:37:50 -0500

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Steve,

My 'lostness' is partly coming back into conversation after a week or so; I
skim read the earlier postings.  I don't know the texts you refer to, so am
at added disadvantage.  But I suspect there are many others in the same boat.

Could someone (Steve?) have a go at summarizing what Freire's work said and
some definition of 'banking definition'.  Doesn't matter how rough (to me)....

Cheers,
James

At 01:18 PM 11/21/01 +0200, you wrote:
>Hello James and all  - Sorry James if I failed one tes(x)t of clarity. But
>before I try and go into my points I wish to make sure that the context is
>appreciated.
>
>My words built WITH those of the others in this discussion ( you recall
>that I sent different posts addresses clearly to each line of debate). For
>example I brought in "Banking" after John made his comments and then I
>used Banking as if this was well understood and in this context of all. I
>did the same with "purposeful" and the request to try and say just what it
>was we tried to do. In this the arguments surrounding an over-emphasis
>upon instrumental rationality are central. My use of Aristotle was also a
>use that was following the existing conversation.
>
>So my clarity might come from this kind of appreciation. I worked through
>the discussion as a red-line-thread. That I tried to do.
>
>But if you did appreciate this and if my words were simply confused then I
>am happy to try again and again.
>
>If I tried I have a suspicion that many voices would be needed in this
>journey. One of the texts that informs my postings here to outres is one
>from the Denzin and Lincoln book called "Handbook of Qualititive Research"
>(1994) and especially the writings in that book from Kincheloe and McLaren
>where this red-line-thread will come alive again in a much more detailed way.
>
>But I am not trying to escape - if I can better write my words through the
>same thread i will try and be happy to try again and again and as long as
>it takes. I work with HOPE.
>
>best wishes
>steve bowles
>
>
>
>James Neill wrote:
>>  Steve,
>>
>>When I first started reading your posts a few years ago I figured I
>>understood about 10% of the meaning....then gradually over the years I
>>feel like I made it over the 50% milestone, which was rather fun.....but
>>my powers have slipped and with this one I would flatter myself (or
>>yourself) if I said I understood 10%....
>>
>>Steve, what is 'banking education' and what is the rest in a language I
>>can 50% understand??
>>
>>Love James

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