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Michelle--
Although i can't cite them all right now, the various critical responses to
``Full Metal Jacket'' comprise a fascinating collection of critical and
theoretical responses to the war film, as you're searching for them. I can
think of no single war film, not even ``Apocalypse Now,'' (or now,
``Redux'') which elicits such a variety of responses and useful applications
of theory. I think it's through this response to the single film, in the
context of the greater subject of The War Film, that you can find helpful
and enlightening ideas. I'm finding this is the case with what I think is
the richest film ever made, Antonioni's ``L'Avventura.'' Using
``L'Avventura'' as a doorway, you enter into a vast consideration of the
uses of cinema, cinema before and inside Modernism, what the limits of
narrative are, what the camera can tell and reveal. More than a body of
films, one film--the right film--can do this. ``Full Metal Jacket'' is such
a film for considering the greater War Film subject.
Regards,
Robert Koehler
----- Original Message -----
From: "Michelle Langford" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2001 3:45 AM
Subject: Reading suggestions: War Films
> Thankyou everybody for all those War film suggestions, although only a
> few have so far responded to the appeal made in my original email for
> readings on war films and theoretical approaches to war and cinema. I
> know this is a huge area because war films have been made by just about
> every nation at every period during the history of cinema, but it seems
> that little really sustained theoretical work has been done in this
> area. I already have a number of references gleaned from databses such
> as Philosopher's Index and MLA, but was hoping list members could direct
> me to other more obscure or regional sources.
>
> Thanks
> Michelle
Yes, I agree with Robert, _Full Metal Jacket_ (which is also, with
Kubrick's other masterful war film _Paths of Glory_, my favorite war film)
has inspired many rich essays. My favorite is Paul Willoquet-Maricondi's
"Full-Metal-Jacketing, or Masculinity in the Making" (_Cinema Journal_ 33
[1994]: 5-21) but Janet C. Moore's "For Fighting and for Fun: Kubrick's
Complicitous Critique in _Full Metal Jacket_" (_The Velvet Light Trap_ 31
[1993]: 39-47) and Susan White's "Male Bonding, Hollywood Orientalism, and
the Repression of the Feminine in Kubrick's _Full Metal Jacket_ (_Inventing
Vietnam: The War in Film and Television_ Ed. Michael Anderegg. 1991) are
also first rate. Also, the later book, _Inventing Vietnam_, is full of
interesting essays on several different war films.
Best,
Reagan
At 02:50 PM 08/27/2001 -0700, you wrote:
>Michelle--
>Although i can't cite them all right now, the various critical responses to
>``Full Metal Jacket'' comprise a fascinating collection of critical and
>theoretical responses to the war film, as you're searching for them. I can
>think of no single war film, not even ``Apocalypse Now,'' (or now,
>``Redux'') which elicits such a variety of responses and useful applications
>of theory. I think it's through this response to the single film, in the
>context of the greater subject of The War Film, that you can find helpful
>and enlightening ideas. I'm finding this is the case with what I think is
>the richest film ever made, Antonioni's ``L'Avventura.'' Using
>``L'Avventura'' as a doorway, you enter into a vast consideration of the
>uses of cinema, cinema before and inside Modernism, what the limits of
>narrative are, what the camera can tell and reveal. More than a body of
>films, one film--the right film--can do this. ``Full Metal Jacket'' is such
>a film for considering the greater War Film subject.
>Regards,
>Robert Koehler
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Michelle Langford" <[log in to unmask]>
>To: <[log in to unmask]>
>Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2001 3:45 AM
>Subject: Reading suggestions: War Films
>
>
>> Thankyou everybody for all those War film suggestions, although only a
>> few have so far responded to the appeal made in my original email for
>> readings on war films and theoretical approaches to war and cinema. I
>> know this is a huge area because war films have been made by just about
>> every nation at every period during the history of cinema, but it seems
>> that little really sustained theoretical work has been done in this
>> area. I already have a number of references gleaned from databses such
>> as Philosopher's Index and MLA, but was hoping list members could direct
>> me to other more obscure or regional sources.
>>
>> Thanks
>> Michelle
>
Reagan--
Thanks for your list of ``FMJ'' (as some of us like to call it) essays. I
know about Moore's, but the others were news to me. It shows how much has
been written about the film. I'd also recommend Michael Herr's marvellous
volume, titled simply ``Kubrick,'' which he wrote after SK's death, and
which partly takes into account the time he spent with Kubrick on ``FMJ.''
Herr, it can't be emphasized enough, is the single link between ``FMJ'' and
``Apocalypse Now,'' making him the great unappreciated poet of Vietnam war
cinema.
Robert Koehler
----- Original Message -----
From: "Reagan Ross" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Monday, August 27, 2001 5:56 PM
Subject: Re: Reading suggestions: War Films
> Yes, I agree with Robert, _Full Metal Jacket_ (which is also, with
> Kubrick's other masterful war film _Paths of Glory_, my favorite war film)
> has inspired many rich essays. My favorite is Paul Willoquet-Maricondi's
> "Full-Metal-Jacketing, or Masculinity in the Making" (_Cinema Journal_ 33
> [1994]: 5-21) but Janet C. Moore's "For Fighting and for Fun: Kubrick's
> Complicitous Critique in _Full Metal Jacket_" (_The Velvet Light Trap_ 31
> [1993]: 39-47) and Susan White's "Male Bonding, Hollywood Orientalism, and
> the Repression of the Feminine in Kubrick's _Full Metal Jacket_
(_Inventing
> Vietnam: The War in Film and Television_ Ed. Michael Anderegg. 1991) are
> also first rate. Also, the later book, _Inventing Vietnam_, is full of
> interesting essays on several different war films.
>
> Best,
> Reagan
>
>
>
> At 02:50 PM 08/27/2001 -0700, you wrote:
> >Michelle--
> >Although i can't cite them all right now, the various critical responses
to
> >``Full Metal Jacket'' comprise a fascinating collection of critical and
> >theoretical responses to the war film, as you're searching for them. I
can
> >think of no single war film, not even ``Apocalypse Now,'' (or now,
> >``Redux'') which elicits such a variety of responses and useful
applications
> >of theory. I think it's through this response to the single film, in the
> >context of the greater subject of The War Film, that you can find helpful
> >and enlightening ideas. I'm finding this is the case with what I think is
> >the richest film ever made, Antonioni's ``L'Avventura.'' Using
> >``L'Avventura'' as a doorway, you enter into a vast consideration of the
> >uses of cinema, cinema before and inside Modernism, what the limits of
> >narrative are, what the camera can tell and reveal. More than a body of
> >films, one film--the right film--can do this. ``Full Metal Jacket'' is
such
> >a film for considering the greater War Film subject.
> >Regards,
> >Robert Koehler
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "Michelle Langford" <[log in to unmask]>
> >To: <[log in to unmask]>
> >Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2001 3:45 AM
> >Subject: Reading suggestions: War Films
> >
> >
> >> Thankyou everybody for all those War film suggestions, although only a
> >> few have so far responded to the appeal made in my original email for
> >> readings on war films and theoretical approaches to war and cinema. I
> >> know this is a huge area because war films have been made by just about
> >> every nation at every period during the history of cinema, but it seems
> >> that little really sustained theoretical work has been done in this
> >> area. I already have a number of references gleaned from databses such
> >> as Philosopher's Index and MLA, but was hoping list members could
direct
> >> me to other more obscure or regional sources.
> >>
> >> Thanks
> >> Michelle
> >
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