Clever! Lisa I agree that 'conservation' does not exactly equal more energy.

Personal scrimping reduces the 'outcome' and therefore increases the
'income'. My father used to say: "a penny saved is a penny earned." He was
penny wise and dollar foolish my mother told us kids. He would scrimp and
then like to go shrimping and fishing in Oregon and Florida. We did not go
without the basic necessities but....some activities had their priorities. A
cheap holiday was to go fishing up on the "Limit" and limit out on Kamloops
trout. My father used to turn the words backwards in his sentences...just to
make us laugh.

" I have a window looking over Chutabucktoo Bay for a Television set.
We are not Canadians not by a damn sight yet, we are Joeys Cornerbrook
boys..."

Give me one good movie every year or two rather than a dozen per week of the
same trash with class we get now...on the ExpressVu.

The reason I still do the same work after 12 years is because I get paid to
walk a lot in the forest in the highest places, for days, and enjoy the
infinite spectacles still left in nature....I was down near the border
lately, at 1700 meters, and it was very windy but I could see the entire
Hozameen Range the place where Jack Kerouac spent a summer as a fire watch.
I stay in my truck rather than drive into the nearest town and rent a motel
room, and I have been doing this for about 13 years. How much gas did I
save? More is not always better, but less may mean more enjoyment of the
sunrises and sunsets. Do I miss people? Of course...but when I meet them,
they often do not share my enthusiasm for discourse: usually one
sided....There are exceptions: Millie at the post office...

I did a lot of the lakes for visual assessments. That was a real hoot. When
I first started doing this work, I was embarrassed about how much money I
was making. I thought that I could do it for free. I had an employee that
also felt the same way. I saw him jump up into the air one time with his
check in hand. He could not believe that had made that much money.

Even when I am not working my favorite occupation is walking, skiing and
kayaking. All my favorite non-motor sports. I was absolutely amazed to see
the bumper to bumper traffic of RVs on the weekend - over twenty five years
ago the roads would have been bumper to air with cars and pickups stuffed
with kids and camping equipment. Now you see RVs bigger than houses, some 48
feet long going bumper to bumper being pulled by a Dodge 4X4 on duallies,
two cabins, all pulled by a Cummins engine.

Mercedes Benz is now mass producing the Unimog. This mechanical device
weighs two times as much as a Hummer, and gets less than half the
mileage....

chao

john foster




----- Original Message -----
From: Lisa Dangutis <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Saturday, May 19, 2001 4:02 PM
Subject: Re: Ethics of the Energy Crunch.


>    If conservation is the equivalent of more energy, then a ceramic
> tile is irrelevent. I'm replacing all my super energy efficient light
bulbs,
> with 100 watt bulbs right now! In my opinion energy conservation
> is not a bad thing, especially with threats of impeding blackouts,
> plus it isn't like everyone can afford to run out and buy renewable
> technologies for their homes.  By conserving though argued a
> personal virtue, I think it would be good for meantime consumerism
> overall. It lower's energy bills, can lower co2 output at utility plants,
> and put less stress on the energy system, overall. Conservation
> is as scientific as it is in a moral balance. Any takers?
>
> Have a good one,
> Li-
>
>
> In a message dated 05/19/01 7:43:36 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
> [log in to unmask] writes:
>
> > Lisa,
> >
> >  More is not always better. There is a new product on the market which
> >  provides an R-20 insulation. It is called 'ceramic panels' and it is 16
> mils
> >  thick. That means that a substance about 16/1000ths of an inch provides
as
> >  much insulation in an exterior wall as fiberglass insulation in a 2X6
inch
> >  'stick frame' house.
> >
> >  Conservation is the equivalent of 'more energy'....
> >
> >  john foster
> >