Dear Colleagues -
In response to Bruce's query, Should Kevin be a listmember: I hope Bruce
that you will take a moment to re-consider your own feelings. I think this
is a fine time for us all to think twice about ways to grapple with
differences. I did follow Kevin's link on the "No Cures Just More
Disorders" and was a tad suspicious because of the site title alone
"psychextortion" - my immediate and gut reaction was to recoil when I saw
"L. Ron Hubbard" somewhere in the literature and I nearly left the site
immediately as if I'd bumped into a disease. I then instantly reacted to my
own discomfort by thinking, Geez, Louise, - as someone whose politics are
enough left of center that I've had this experience from the other end the
game, how can I dismiss what someone is saying, based not on what they said,
but who they are?
Just last night, in fact, while working on an article about financial
conflicts of interest in medicine I was interviewing the director of
communications for a large pharmaceutical company. She and a non-profit
organization refuse to release conflict of interest data regarding certain
scientists who have come under a cloud of suspicion in regards to certain
"scientific" pronouncements. While refusing to release that financial data,
the Director, in a hostile tone demanded to know if I wasn't writing for one
of those "anti-corporate" media before she would even consider the
interview..
Anyway, back to my foray at Kevin's website - when I calmed myself down a
tad, I found that certain of the citations Kevin listed where actually of
some interest - I'm pasting a few below. One of the great things about
these times is the opportunity to cross cultural, political, social,
religious and other differences a.) in a non-violent manner and b.) in a
manner that may not only influence ourselves for the better, but the very
people we're so worried about being nut-cases as well.
Jeanne Lenzer
From Kevin's website citation list:
37 Italy's parliamentary resolution, "The XII Commission," 4 Aug. 1996.
38 V.G. Mavreas, "Greece: The Transition to Community Care," The
International Journal of Social Psychiatry, (1987), Vol. 33, No. 2, p. 154;
Daloni Carlisle, "The Hell Called Leros," Nursing Times, Vol. 85, No. 39, 27
Sept. 1989, p.18.
39 Daloni Carlisle, "The Hell Called Leros," op cit.
40 "Hungary: a health system in transition," (International Health Care),
American College of Physicians, 1996.
http://www.elibrary.com/getdoc.cgi?id=136...rydocid=547228@library_e&dtype=0
~0&dinst.
41 Daniel Langenkamp, "(Not) minding their own business, Hungary's mental
institutions receive harsh criticism from ombudsman," Budapest Week, 8-14
Aug. 1996; Eric Rosenthal, "Report Examines Hungary's Mental Health System,"
Mental Disability Rights International website, accessed 12 Dec. 1998.
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Dr Bruce
Sent: Friday, December 15, 2000 1:29 AM
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Dear all,
This is the third (at least) message that Kevin has posted to the list
offering 'help' with queries. His links are all to Scientology sites. I
don't suppose it really matters since few people following the links
are likely to take them seriously, but should he really be a list
member?
Bruce
> The information below may be of some help
>
> The History of ECT
> http://www.cchr.org/ect/index.htm
>
> No Cures Just More Disorders
> http://psychextortion.cchr.org/eng/page12.htm
>
> Regards
>
> Kevin
Bruce Guthrie,
MRC Training Fellow in Health Services Research,
Department of General Practice,
University of Edinburgh,
20 West Richmond Street,
Edinburgh EH8 9DX
Tel 0131 650 9237
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