At 02:31 PM 10/22/00 -0600, Frances Batycki wrote:
>But the Presence of the beloved is still not the issue...the desire
>whether she/he be absent or present is still an experiencing of
>something one doesn't or can't immediately have.
My comment about dessert was in jest.
My contention is that one desires even as one is fulfilling the desire.
(In fact, one might argue that desire sometimes comes before perceived
lack.) I think the early modern use of "want" -- as both lack and desire --
suggests that these two feelings -- lack and desire -- also may be
experienced at the same time rather than seriatim.
>From my reading of Marshall Grossman's excellent post, I gather that Lacan
is using verb tenses as a metaphor for something else -- "what I shall have
been for what I am in the process of becoming." Is Lacan suggesting that
when I die I shall no longer be in the process of becoming, and if I look
at that feared culmination from the point of view of the present -- when I
am yet in the world of becoming -- I will or shall think of my history in
terms of the future anterior -- I shall have been? Or is this merely
adding mist to linguistic mysticism?
Certainly Marshall's concept of metalepsis calls the idea that, for Lacan,
"desire is proleptic" into question.
Yours, Bill Godshalk
Yours, Bill Godshalk
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