I just recalled something I saw in a work of Pierre d'Ailly, the one edited
by Francis Oakley in his The Political Thought of Pierre d'Ailly; d'A.
(pp. 315-16) mentions Hildegard & Joachim of Flora together as prophetic
figures who foresaw the Great Schism.
Tom Izbicki
At 10:40 AM 8/4/2000 -0500, you wrote:
>At 08:50 AM 8/3/2000 -0400, you wrote:
>>May I ask if any members of the list know of saints who are presented as
>>prophets?
>>
>
>Isn't prophecy almost expected of female saints in the later Middle Ages?
>Birgitta of Sweden was certainly a prophetess. Catherine of Siena's public
>seems to have treated her as a prophetess, though her writings display very
>little overtly prophetic content (if "prophetic" is taken to involve
>predictions of future events). Indeed, Catherine's confessor and
>biographer, Raymond of Capua, is very careful to defend Catherine against
>the "charge" of having prophesied a universal crusade. Despite her urging
>no such crusade took place, so Raymond needed to defend Catherine against
>imputations of false prophecy--a very
>BAD THING in a prospective saint. And both Birgitta and Catherine were
>sometimes identified with the schism, since their prophetic interventions
>were thought to have influenced Gregory XI's return of the papal court to
>Rome, and thus helped cause the schism.
>
>Is it much of an overstatement to say that a prophetic reputation of some
>sort was attached to many (almost all?) late-medieval female saints?
>
>On this matter, however--putting first things last--let me ask how members
>of the list would define "prophecy" in this context.
>
>Tom
>
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>Department of History
>Tulane University
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