Eric,
If memory serves, at least five people (you, I, Erik Jul, David Bearman,
and John Perkins) find the current use of "Identifier:" in the qualifier
document to be confusing and would prefer to see an alternative.
I'm not sure how attached we are to strict adherence to ISO 11179,
but I'm confident that (a) clarity and (b) consensus are of much
higher priority than strict adherence to this external standard.
I'm also finding myself a bit surprised at the perception that DCMI
bought in to specific ISO 11179 jargon (e.g., Identifier), thinking
we'd only bought in to its formatting style. I suspect that most of
us don't understand or have never seen its jargon explained.
Unless there's an internet accessible copy of ISO11179, then I'm sure
DCMI doesn't understand the jargon, in which case any consensus that
we're alleged to have reached on it is completely undermined.
Rather than threaten both clarity and consensus, let's take the easy way
out and find an alternative to "Identifier:". You've seen my suggestion
(below) for "Label:". Do you have any other suggestions?
-John
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From: John Perkins <[log in to unmask]>, 15 Mar 2000 15:12:42
Ren,
I have found in the past when trying to communicate CIMI standards
work that using ISO 11179 make documents more confusing and more
complicated. It was a nice idea to adhere to ISO 11179 but in the
end we dropped it because of adverse reaction from our users.
If we do use it we must make sure that the documents are structured
and presented in a way that confusion is minimised. Our current
ballot does not do this. Best, JP
At 11:27 AM +1000 3/13/00, Renato Iannella wrote:
>--On 9/3/00 6:20 PM -0500 John A. Kunze wrote:
>
>
>>would simplify, without loss of information, to
>>
>> 37) Is Part Of
>>
>> Label: isPartOf
>>
>> Definition: The described resource is a physical or logical
>> part of the referenced resource.
>>
>>
>>The change would be consistent with the published RFC's terminology
>>while remaining consistent with ISO 11179 presentation style.
>
>Identifier is mandatory in ISO11179. Please lets not mess with
>this. We have other things to worry about!
>
>
>Cheers...Renato <http://purl.net/net/renato>
>Chief Scientist, IPR Systems <http://www.iprsystems.com>
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