In Jewish history John Chrysostom is more than a murder! His virulent
anti-semitism has been a lasting infection still alive among Christians and was
certainly a major component in the seeds of the Holocaust.
Sylvan Beer
Syracuse, NY
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> Re: adultery and murder
> Re: new member: Luciana Cuppo Csaki
> Re: adultery and murder
> possible solution to Chrysostom, murderer
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> Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2000 23:46:39 EST
> From: [log in to unmask]
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: adultery and murder
> Message-Id: <[log in to unmask]>
>
> In a message dated 1/9/2000 7:18:20 PM Pacific Standard Time,
> [log in to unmask] writes:
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> <<
> Why is it important to you to prove similarities between David and John, and
> what are you going to do if they don't exist? >>
>
> 1. I do not speculate that similarities in their careers exist, but that a
> nasty episode of murder/adultery might have been mistakenly attributed to St.
> John.
> 2. I intend to do nothing!
> Dan
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> Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2000 10:30:14 +0000 (GMT)
> From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Bill=20East?= <[log in to unmask]>
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: new member: Luciana Cuppo Csaki
> Message-Id: <[log in to unmask]>
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> --- Vivario <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> > Luciana Cuppo Csaki, Societas internationalis pro Vivario.
> >
> > I study Cassiodorus and his environment ("Vivarium").
>
> Excellent! How good to have a specialist on Cassiodorus on the list.
> Welcome aboard.
>
> The Supple Doctor.
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> Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2000 08:21:41 -0600
> From: Pat Hollahan <[log in to unmask]>
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: adultery and murder
> Message-Id: <[log in to unmask]>
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> Although David did not murder Uriah by his own hand, the two
> sins he committed in the Bathsheba affair are generally described
> in commentary tradition as adultery and murder.
>
> Pat Hollahan
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> [log in to unmask] wrote:
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> > In a message dated 01/09/2000 9:47:52 PM Eastern Standard Time,
> > [log in to unmask] writes:
> >
> > > If so, is it possible that the adultery and murder
> > > committed by King David were mistakenly attributed to St. John on the
> > > grounds
> > > that both were golden-tongued? I say this with absolutely no
> > > confidence--pure speculation and nothing but!
> >
> > He didn't exactly commit a murder--simply ordered that Uriah be sent to the
> > most dangerous position (2 Samuel 11.15). A lot of times, it's better to
> > actually read the Biblical material before one "speculates" on what it says,
> > as I think you might be realizing.
> >
> > Why is it important to you to prove similarities between David and John, and
> > what are you going to do if they don't exist?
> >
> > pat
>
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> Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2000 12:15:00 -0500
> From: "Stephen A. Allen" <[log in to unmask]>
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: possible solution to Chrysostom, murderer
> Message-Id: <[log in to unmask]>
>
> Marija-Ana Durrigl seems to have found a solution to this
> whole John-Chrysostom-as-murderer problem. Unfortunately,
> she was unable to post her message to the entire list
> because of technical problems. I thus forward it to you
> all for your delectation.
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2000 09:00:59 +0100 (MET)
> From: [log in to unmask]
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Rejected [non-member submission] Re: John
> Chrysostom, murderer?
>
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> I think it was "another" John Chrysostom, not the Church
> father... And
> this "other" J. C. commits adultery and subsequently
> murders the young
> lady. He repents of course - this "other' Chrysostom is
> known as Bocca
> d'Oro (his saliva turned into gold when he ran out of ink
> while writing a
> miracle of Our Lady).
>
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