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Subject:

Re: French trad music?

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Stephen Miller <[log in to unmask]>

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Wed, 23 Feb 2000 10:07:14 +0000

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At 22:24 22/02/00 -0000, you wrote:
>Hi Don,
>
>Now it's my turn to help you!
>
>Joseph Canteloube was a very significant collector, and his published music
>"Song of the Auvergne" is just a bit of his work. His great publication is
>the five-volume "Anthologie des chants populaires français" published by
>Durand et cie in Paris in 1951. It is a superb work, and his material is
>truly wonderful. Unfortunately it is about as rare as hen's teeth. I have
>been looking for a copy for myself for ages, without success. However, any

The Gascon volume is available, from at least two sellers if you are
interested.

Stephen Miller

>decent university library should have a copy. I suppose you might draw a
>parallel between Canteloube and Vaughan Williams, in that both were avid
>collectors and made excellent arrangements of their "finds". One of the
>interesting things that you find from reading his book is that "Songs from
>the Auvergne" contains songs not from the Auvergne!! But who cares? The
>music is fabulous.
>
>As regards a French Sharp or Child, there's no such luck. There are many
>collections, but they tend to be of the type that ignores the music or the
>words. Doncieux is a prime example. What you need to be aware of is the
>strong regional character of French folk music which is reflected in the
>collections. Collectors seem in the main to have specialised in particular
>localities. If you want to know about Breton stuff, then talk to Mary Ann
>Constantine, who is on this list. My own interest is Catalonia, which spills
>over from Spain into France, specifically the Roussillon and the Cerdagne.
>The most important collector here is Jean Poueigh (Chansons populaires des
>Pyrenées françaises, Paris, Champion, 1926), but others include:
>
>Cécile Marie, Anthologie de la chanson occitane, Paris, Maissonneuve et
>Larose, 1975)
>Louis Lambert, Chants et chansons populaires du Languedoc, Paris, 1906 repr.
>Marseilles, Laffitte Reprints, 1983
>Jérome Bujeaud, Chants et chansons populaires des provinces de l'ouest,
>Niort, 1905, repr. Laffitte Reprints,(nd)
>George Doncieux, Le romancéro populaire de la France: choix de chansons
>populaires françaises, Paris, Bouillon, 1904
>
>There is also the dreaded Histoire de la chanson populaire en France of
>Julien Tiersot, but I would respectfully suggest you steer clear of this,
>since his musical ideas are (to say the least) odd. More details in my
>thesis, when finished. If you want analysis then look at the (several) works
>of Patrice Courault.
>
>This is by no means a complete list, but reflects my interests in the far
>south west. Other useful names are Weckerlin, Davenson, Rolland and
>Colet/Dumerson. Other subscribers to the list may have some better ideas.
>
>If you want recordings, then you need to get in touch with AMTA in Riom.
>They do loads of CDs of really good traditional French and Occitane music of
>all kinds. I can give you more details if you wish.
>
>Fimally, look for Marc Robine's book "Anthologie de la chanson française".
>This covers everything from the troubadours through folk songs of all
>descriptions, music hall songs and stuff right up to this century. Apart
>from being a monster reference work (with a useful bibliography), it comes
>with no fewer than 14 CDs containing 321 songs! It was published by Albin
>Michel in Paris in 1994. The ISBN is 2-226-07479-1. I can recommend the sea
>shanty "Père Winslow" which rejoices in the chorus "gimme some time to blow
>the man down" which in a French accent has to be heard to be believed!
>
>Cheers
>Simon
>
>
>
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  Stephen Miller		 
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