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RE: PERIODS - Timeline Thesaurus

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John Wood <[log in to unmask]>

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Tue, 8 Feb 2000 14:00:19 -0000

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To explain my view from the (real) north...!

ARTISTIC PERIOD
Covers periods which can be defined by the artistic style of architecture or
artefacts eg. BAROQUE, ANGLO SAXON, ELIZABETHAN.

Baroque if fine; but we have neither an Anglo-Saxon nor an Elizabethan
period here
If you are going to use such terms (and I can imagine people might want to
search on them in England) you will need to include extra terms where they
apply elsewhere in the British Isles.


CULTURAL PERIOD
Covers periods which relate to technological or cultural change and includes
the classic 3 Age system as well as the later "cultural" periods of ROMAN,
MEDIEVAL, MODERN etc.


The 3 Age system dates do vary for different parts of the British Isles.  We
have no Romans in the Highlands.  However we do have a Pictish period and
(for the north) a Norse period.


HISTORIC PERIOD
Covers periods that relate to a specific slot in time Eg. Centuries, Major
historic events.  Presently this covers the 1st  to the 21st  Centuries AD.
Each Century has narrow terms eg. 11TH CENTURY AD has the Narrow Term of
NORMAN CONQUEST which in turn has the Narrow Terms of BATTLE OF HASTINGS and
the BATTLE OF STAMFORD BRIDGE.


Centuries are fine, but 'major historical events' depend on your historical
perspective.  Norman Conquest, Battle of Hastings, Stamford Bridge are not
'major historical events' at all here.  Now the battle of Culloden, that's a
different matter.


>From the 16th Century onwards each century is split into EARLY, MID and
LATE.

No problem with this, anyway!

POLITICAL PERIOD
Covers periods defined by the reigns of emperors, monarchs or parliaments.
This presently includes all the Royal Dynasties of England and (after 1603)
Scotland, as well as Political Leaders such as SIR WINSTON CHURCHILL, OLIVER
CROMWELL

Pre 1603 English Royal dynasties do not define periods in Scottish history!
I would find it useful to refer to the reigns of David I and James IV for
example .


The main relationships between the four classes will be defined by the
Related Terms of any given term.

Eg. If you are interested in the BATTLE OF BOSWORTH FIELD

You may also be interested in HENRY VII, RICHARD III, or the TUDORS


I think you need to decide whether this is supposed to be a list to cover
the UK, or the British Isles, or England and Wales, or just England .  If it
is to have a relevance to more than England it has got to include periods
relevant to those areas. 

There has been a similar discussion in the past on the SMR Forum List.  What
I suggest is that whatever culturally determined periods are used, we all
use the Christian calendar!  Alongside the terms appropriate in different
parts of the UK we should all enter  the relevant centuries if possible
narrowing it down to early / middle / late; and the relevant millennia again
using early / middle and late where possible and appropriate.  That way
someone could start an enquiry in the south of England looking at (say) the
Norman invasion, then go to (say) Orkney and find out what was going on
there at the same time.  The Norse earls of Orkney were of course related to
the Normans.

Anyway, I hope that explains my earlier comment.

 

John Wood


-----Original Message-----
From: Carlisle, Philip [ mailto:[log in to unmask]
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Sent: 08 February 2000 10:05
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Subject: RE: PERIODS - Timeline Thesaurus


John

Could you expand on your comments. Why is it irrelevant? Which terms would
you need included to make it relevant?

Phil

-----Original Message-----
From:   John Wood [ mailto:[log in to unmask]
<mailto:[log in to unmask]> ]
Sent:   08 February 2000 10:08
To:     [log in to unmask]
Subject:        RE: PERIODS - Timeline Thesaurus

This is fine for England but completely irrelevant to us!

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John Wood
Senior Archaeologist
Planning and development Service
The Highland Council
Glenurquhart Road
Inverness  IV3  5NX

Tel:  01463  702502
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