Another Sidneian reference: Correspondence (ed. Kuin), vol. 2, p. 981-82.
Letter to Edward Denny, 22 May 1580.
"The knowledge of our selves no doubte ought to be most pretious vnto vs . . ." (981).
On virtues and their contraries: "And therof are many bookes written ; but to my pleasing Aristotles Ethickes passe ; but he is something darke and hath need of a Logicall examination" (982).
The index omits this reference to Aristotle, so it could be missed by those not reading Kuin from cover to cover.
See also Languet's comments on Aristotle's difficulty at 1:123, and Sidney's desire to read the Greek instead of relying on commentaries at 1:106.
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On Jul 18, 2013, at 11:20 PM, "Judith H. Anderson" <[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>> wrote:
After Rob’s response, I’ll dare to venture to mention his discussion(s) of the concept architectonike in his wonderful book Philip Sidney and the Poetics of Renaissance Cosmopolitanism. If memory serves, he relates the concept to Melanchthon—Philippist piety, which would tie in with the biblical injunction you cite. I imagine you know the book, but it might be worth another look if you read it some time ago, as did I.
Judith
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Subject: Re: Sidney and architectonike
That is a terrific question, and and an important one for getting right Sidney's notions about how and why poetry does its work. Answering it well would mean looking hard at those contemporary sources through which Aristotle's Ethics were mediated for him. You might want to have a look at Joachim Camerarius the Elder's commentaries on the Ethics, posthumously published by Andreas Wechel's press in Frankfurt after Sidney's request to his sons for its publication. Sidney didn't read Aristotle as we do. He read him through the specific lens of a particular brand of reformed humanism that found one of its most learned expressions in Camerarius--also the translator of the Cyropaedia, which is another of Wechel's publications. The commentary has a useful, searchable index both for Greek terms and for Latin. You might have a look there for architectonike and entelecheia, and then compare notes on what Camerarius has to say about energeia--a good Aristotelian term appearing some 600-plus times in the corpus, and of some real interest to Camerarius and to Sidney where concepts of the self and self -knowledge and the work (energon) of becoming or making or knowing a self matter.
I hope the suggestion helps, and apologise for my short-hand notes, but I'm traveling right now and away from my books.
Rob
I'm writing to ask whether anyone knows of a precedent for Sidney's gloss on 'architectonike' as self-knowledge.
It looks like he's putting together two classical passages: Aristotle on the master-science, which he compares to architecture because other forms of techne are controlled by it as workmen are controlled by the architect; and Plato on the Delphic oracle's "know thyself."
What I'm wondering--if this interpretation passes muster--is whether Sidney is making this leap himself, or repeating something fairly commonplace. It doesn't look to me as if Aristotle's 'architectonike' is really about self-knowledge in Aristotle; and Sidney's way of glossing the term ("which stands as I think, in the knowledge of a man's self") seems to imply that he's the one drawing this conclusion.
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