actually, maybe *my message is too vague to be useful - it's funny how one
can see flaws when they come back
*you mean something by a word like leftie, I don't doubt it, but I think
they dont exist any more than fairies
*I suspect that what you mean doesn't stand up (in the way that academics
full of vegetarian food looking out of ivory towers doesn't stand up)
there are all kinds of reasons why it's difficult to say what we mean, but
one reason is that the terms we use are meaningless
at the end of the day
in this day and age
let's face it
sometimes one strips away everything of that sort to find little with any
great substance
I put it to you that leftie is such a term
It seems to me you are proposing a grouping of people who can be expected to
behave in a certain way, that's their predictable stupidity etc
now a group that is so obvious and predictable must be definable
if you can't tell me pretty exactly what a leftie is, when pointing out that
someone is a leftie supposedly explains everything, then I suggest that
there is no such thing *as *such
maybe you have met a lot of people who talk rubbish with a socialist slant,
or vocab; but the emphasis there is on the rubbish-talking
leftie / leftist is a fairly common usage on this list, providing a name for
something to be opposed to without being clear enough to be opposed itself
it's like "enemies of civilisation" etc
even "terrorist" has something going for it in the sense of typifying a
certain kind of dangerous behaviour though it lumps together people of
unlike beliefs and intentions from McVeigh to Hamas to Saddam Hussein and
Ariel Sharon
but it's all terrorism say Bush and Blair (unless you are from US, UK or
Israel - temporary list memberships available for acceptable behaviour)
so can you tell me what a leftie is?
Surely a list like PoetryEtc should be aiming for precise reading and clear
usage
I'm disappointed we're not getting anything like precision
L
----- Original Message -----
From: "Lawrence Upton" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: 14 November 2002 21:46
Subject: Re: Paulin Plucked ...
| too vague to be useful
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| AND
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| none of the socialists I know melted down
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| none of the socialists I know are post socialist
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| L
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| ----- Original Message -----
| From: "paul murphy" <[log in to unmask]>
| To: <[log in to unmask]>
| Sent: 14 November 2002 21:26
| Subject: Re: Paulin Plucked ...
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| | Leftist or Leftie - something that evolved out of the post-Socialist
| meltdown.
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