John,
I certainly agree that this is a issue that seriously affects the future of
the profession.
Part of the solution must be for the profession to begin promoting its
organisational value to those that hold the purse strings. Without winning
the hearts and minds of those who can, this is going to drag on and on as an
issue. The conclusion to which could very well be terminal!!
Cheers
Andy
-----Original Message-----
From: UK medical/ health care library community / information workers
[mailto:[log in to unmask]]On Behalf Of John Gale
Sent: Thursday, August 04, 2005 4:00 PM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: Change in job title
I'm sorry if I've caused any offence - I've worked alongside some very
capable
library assistants and I meant no reflection on the people who might apply
for
that job. I expressed myself in a light-hearted way but the fact remains (in
abstract terms of course, not personal ones) how are we as a profession
going
to recruit high-calibre people to work in Central London for £14-17 K ? I
know
there are all sorts of other factors behind choice of job/career etc but my
ire
was directed solely at people who expect graduate/postgraduate
performance/calibre at school-leaver pay levels. Now that *is* a serious
issue.
Quoting "Gray, Geraldine" <[log in to unmask]>:
> Never mind Library Assistants, I'm sure there are many Chartered
Librarians
> in that range too for all sorts of reasons personal, family commitments
> inability to move geographically etc.
>
> I'm sure the poster meant no offence to possible applicants only those who
> set salaries at such low levels and then expect the earth!
>
> Geraldine
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Hilton Boon Michele [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
> Sent: 04 August 2005 14:50
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: Change in job title
>
>
> I don't know - isn't it inherently offensive to suggest that people who
earn
> and are willing to accept £14,094 - £16,087 p.a. likely can't 'string a
> sentence together'? As is the suggestion that salary is an indication of
> ability/intelligence? However, I'm sure the poster didn't mean to offend.
>
> This discussion is worthwhile if it makes people examine their assumptions
> about the staff they manage. Also, Deborah Shorley suggested at Umbrella
> that our obsession with job titles and salaries impedes our progress as a
> profession and I think this thread illustrates her point well.
>
> In my experience a lot of library assistants are in that salary range and
> are more than capable of expressing themselves well and going on to
greater
> things.
>
> Just my 2p
>
> Michele
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: UK medical/ health care library community / information workers
> [mailto:[log in to unmask]]On Behalf Of Merriott Sue
> Sent: 04 August 2005 14:38
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: Change in job title
>
>
> John wasn't being rude or sarcastic about anyone in particular, so I don't
> think point 4 applies!
>
> There are often strings that are of no interest to me and I find a waste
of
> time, so I just delete them.
>
> I have found this string all very amusing, but my personal interpretation
> sees it as a rueful expression of a general irritation amongst health
> librarians, NHS in particular, at some of the changes being inflicted upon
> the profession and services, (not to mention our way of life) not always
for
> the better!
>
> Sue
>
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