On Fri, 20 Jul 2001, Richard Everett JISC MLE Co-ordinator wrote:
|It is interesting that all these issues are also being wrestled with in the
|JISC Interoperability pilots. This particular one of ids was a particular
|subject of discussion in a meeting of the SURF Interoperability Pilot. This
|meeting was attended by four of the major MIS vendors to FE and a suggestion
|was made that perhaps a useful contribution that JISC could make on behalf
|of both FE and HE sectors would be to support a JISC id which would be
|unique to post 16 Education in this country at least. Is this such a stupid
|idea (or am I just being naive here)?
Sounds good to me - but then again, I am probably just as naive as you!
Adam Marshall
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|Subject: Re: Comments on Adam's comments on Paul's mapping document
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|Rosemary - I should have said that LIP spec says that
|<identification><uid> must be unique, ie, there can only be ONE uid
|field within <identification><demographics> - the transcript seems to
|require TWO.
|
|Paul suggested contacting IMS and getting them
|to remove this constraint, and then I suggested an alternative using
|affiliation / affiliationID.
|
|Adam
|
|
|On Wed, 18 Jul 2001, Rosemary Burton wrote:
|
||This is all new to me so I expect I am getting it wrong, but here are some
||thoughts:
||
||Section 1
||
||Does <identification><uid> have to be globally unique? Is such a thing
||possible unless you store DNA or iris patterns?
||Don't all identifiers operate within a defined context (the institution,
|the
||country, all Visa customers etc.?)
||
||Not sure that <affiliation><affiliationID> solves the problem entirely. At
||Brookes the student number identifies the course registration, not the
||person, so a student who takes two or more courses at the same institution
||would have two or more student numbers (and a separate transcript for
|each).
||
||NI number might be ok for UK students, assuming they will all have had
||vacation or part-time jobs and so will have one by the time they graduate,
||but will overseas students have one?
||
||Do we have to think about other types of identifier eg. those required by
||professional bodies like the English Nursing Board. We could use
||affiliation-affiliationId for these.
||
||I think we have to have an extension that allows for additional
||<identification> unique ids so we can keep the HESA reference plus one or
||more student numbers.
||
||
||Section 2 - sounds ok.
||
|| Section 3
||
||I had thought that Name of programme meant the full programme leading to
||whatever award the student ends up with (so qcl) but the years would be
||activities within it. We don't put the intermediate end-of-year awards
||(CertHE, DipHE) on the transcript unless the student is leaving after the
||first or second year. We don't record a pass/fail for the year either.
||Also what about part-time students, who spread a year's work over more than
||one calendar year. For those reasons I would call the programme a
||qualification but the years within it activities.
||
||Section 5
||
||Seems reasonable to me.
||
||Section 7
||---------
||Overview of NQF, overview of UK HE system. Aren't these just explanatory
||text, why do they need to be associated with the individual learner?
||
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