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LISTSERV Web Interface 16.52024-03-11T16:30:22ZMike Syer2024-03-11T16:23:22+00:002024-03-11T16:23:22+00:00Re: Engine Pithttps://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/wa-jisc.exe?A2=MINING-HISTORY;df75015d.2403Thanks David and Clive. Much appreciated.<br><br>You asked where it was, David.<br><br>The Engine Pits I was looking at are marked on an 1847 royalties plan – that of the Crowtrees & Quarrington Royalty in Cassop-cum-Quarrington, Durham. There are actually two of them, close together, one each side of the Hett Winn Dyke. One is dated 1825. [...]Clive Seal2024-03-11T10:38:19+00:002024-03-11T10:38:19+00:00Re: Engine Pithttps://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/wa-jisc.exe?A2=MINING-HISTORY;a65d155.2403In my research within the north Pennines coalfield it usually is a pumping<br>shaft, most of which in my area of interest were operated by a bob gin, a<br>water wheel powered pump.<br><br>New coal drawing shafts would be sunk as the workings progressed to ease<br>underground haulage but the original engine pit would continue to be used<br>as it would have been sunk at the most advantages point [...]David Hardwick2024-03-11T09:33:23+00:002024-03-11T09:33:23+00:00Re: Engine Pithttps://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/wa-jisc.exe?A2=MINING-HISTORY;ffca3461.2403I think the short answer is … usually but not necessarily<br><br>There are plenty of examples of leases referring to “engines” which actually refer to “Water Engines” or ‘Horse Engines”<br>There is no reason why the same would not apply to a map/royalties plan.<br><br>Having said that, but the 19th century the development of the steam engine was sufficiently advanced that the term engine had been largely dropped in reference to other forms of power although water wheels and horse gins were still very much in use.<br>It is of course possible that the term relates to a winding engine [...]