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LISTSERV Web Interface 16.52024-03-18T22:23:01ZAdam Clamp2024-03-18T22:22:48+00:002024-03-18T22:22:48+00:00Re: website preservationhttps://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/wa-jisc.exe?A2=MCG;2be2dfbc.2403Hi Luba,<br><br>How was the site built. Is it based on a Content Management System like<br>Wordpress or Drupal, or was it custom code in HTML, PHP etc......<br><br>One option would be to turn it into a static website where nothing is<br>dynamic. It can then be viewed locally without requiring a web<br>application/server.<br><br>Let me know if you need any further advice. [...]Luba Nurse2024-03-18T22:20:36+01:002024-03-18T22:20:36+01:00website preservationhttps://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/wa-jisc.exe?A2=MCG;e4135cde.2403Hello<br><br>I am looking for advice on website preservation.<br>A retired curator of the museum kept writing and publishing on their own<br>website for the last 20 years, if not longer. The texts are very important<br>and the website is used by researchers. We have been discussing how to keep<br>the website accessible and how to preserve the content of the website. [...]Stuart Berry2024-03-18T13:33:10+00:002024-03-18T13:33:10+00:00It's not that easy being green | New article from the Digital Learning Network (DLNET)https://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/wa-jisc.exe?A2=MCG;46ab1364.2403Dear Colleagues and apologies for cross-posting...<br><br>The Digital Learning Network's latest article has launched today!<br><br>It's not that easy being green has been written by DLNET committee member, Lizzie Seymour, and is a well researched but accessible piece that highlights some simple steps towards increased sustainability for cultural organisations who use digital technology for learning or audience engagement. [...] Paula Granados García2024-03-18T13:15:26+00:002024-03-18T13:15:26+00:00Vacacy: Digital Project Curator for EMKPhttps://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/wa-jisc.exe?A2=MCG;6718235a.2403Dear colleagues,<br><br>We would be very grateful if you could circulate this vacancy.<br><br>The British Museum is seeking a *Project Curator: Digital to join the<br>Endangered Material Knowledge Programme*.<br><br>*The Endangered Material Knowledge Programme (EMKP)* gives grants to<br>support the documentation and digitisation of material knowledge systems<br>that are under threat and in danger of disappearing. The programme was<br>established in 2018 with funding from Arcadia - a charitable foundation<br>that works to protect nature, preserve cultural heritage, and promote open<br>access to knowledge - and is hosted by the Department of Africa, Oceania,<br>and the Americas at the British [...]Lesley Johnston2024-03-18T13:00:48+00:002024-03-18T13:00:48+00:00VR Licencing advice soughthttps://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/wa-jisc.exe?A2=MCG;1451ed3.2403Hi,<br><br>Our charity has created an Antarctic VR output and we've got interest from a museum that'd like to host it as part of their educational offerings. We've agreed that a licencing fee would be reasonable but as this is a wholly new endeavour for our charity I'd like to chat to someone about how to undertake the agreement fairly for both parties.<br>If anyone has some experience in this area that'd be willing to have a short call, has been in a similar position, or could suggest any specialists / suitable consultants in digital product licencing it'd be much [...]Mike Ellis2024-03-18T09:35:03+00:002024-03-18T09:35:03+00:00Re: Design language system / digital principleshttps://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/wa-jisc.exe?A2=MCG;90d5efd.2403Didn’t say thanks to everyone for invaluable (as ever) responses to this - THANKS :-)<br><br>MikeMike Ellis2024-03-15T16:16:51+00:002024-03-15T16:16:51+00:00Re: Umbraco CMShttps://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/wa-jisc.exe?A2=MCG;48b9df2b.2403This has been / is being a very interesting thread!<br><br>Per Martijn’s point (and it doesn’t get made often enough!)...<br><br>Ultimately, content management is about the content - the clue is in the name. The people who will most likely be using your CMS every day will be Normals. Not geeks, not designers, not developers. They’ll be people who just want to publish great content - and they want to do this quickly, effectively, and with the absolute minimum of effort. Content editors are doing the hardest job of all and as such are often the busiest of people - so they [...]Martijn van der Heijden2024-03-15T15:29:41+00:002024-03-15T15:29:41+00:00Re: Umbraco CMShttps://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/wa-jisc.exe?A2=MCG;306712d4.2403Hello Oliver,<br><br>Can I make one point in addition to all the wise things others contributed?<br><br>Whatever CMS you choose, it is only as good as the implementation.<br><br>For example, I have worked with and at agencies that built a lot in Drupal.<br><br>- Some set up the functionality in Drupal, then tried to patch the<br>design on it, with disastrous ux as a result.<br>- Others did a lot better by first coding client side first, then using<br>Drupal to make it dynamic and editable.<br>- Later they moved to 'headless' architecture, with Drupal just<br>producing content for in [...]Oliver Vicars-Harris2024-03-15T11:50:01+00:002024-03-15T11:50:01+00:00Re: Umbraco CMShttps://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/wa-jisc.exe?A2=MCG;eb6b9406.2403Thanks Andy and Steve,<br><br>All super helpful and I feel relieved at mainly having to review CMS<br>options from the perspective of an end user rather than as a developer.<br>That said, the considerations clearly run much deeper than the immediate<br>one of "how easy is it to use", since the implications of making the wrong<br>choice on a technical level have potential to come back to bite further<br>down the line. [...]C E2024-03-15T11:46:06+00:002024-03-15T11:46:06+00:00Re: Umbraco CMShttps://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/wa-jisc.exe?A2=MCG;bcf750a2.2403Hey Oliver<br><br>Umbraco CMS, in my experience, is a robust open source solution.<br><br>Questions about rates aside (.net being typically more expensive in hiring<br>devs etc.) I think the question is wrong.<br><br>There's no such thing as a bad CMS, or a good CMS. There's certainly plenty<br>of examples of good and bad CMS *implementations*. [...]Sophie Dietrich2024-03-15T10:59:44+00:002024-03-15T10:59:44+00:00LIMITED SPACES: Towards a National Collection Webinar, 19 Marhttps://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/wa-jisc.exe?A2=MCG;c8aab119.2403Dear colleagues (with apologies for cross-posting)<br><br>if you are interested in digital heritage and the use of new digital methods and tools, don’t miss our Towards a National Collection (TaNC) Discovery Project Webinar Series 2024. We have some great speakers lined up and look forward to welcoming you next week. These online events are free and open to everyone, and we encourage you to share this invitation with anyone who may be interested. [...]Mike Ellis2024-03-15T10:47:52+00:002024-03-15T10:47:52+00:00Re: Umbraco CMShttps://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/wa-jisc.exe?A2=MCG;24cab029.2403The most annoying CMS war in the cultural heritage sector is the one where people insist on calling their collections management system a “CMS”…<br><br>8-)Andy Cummins2024-03-15T10:27:45+00:002024-03-15T10:27:45+00:00Re: Umbraco CMShttps://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/wa-jisc.exe?A2=MCG;16ab8d5f.2403Hi Oliver,<br>Steve is right, there are lots of CMS to choose from and there are many considerations as he’s outlined.<br><br>Cogapp is a CMS agnostic agency and choose the right CMS for a given client’s needs. Having said that, all things being equal, we tend to favour Craft CMS at present. In a nutshell its editor experience is incredible when compared to some other CMS. It is the choice of the W3C for their website which shows how highly regarded it is in terms of accessibility. [...]Info at Bellingham2024-03-14T19:45:51+00:002024-03-14T19:45:51+00:00Re: Umbraco CMShttps://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/wa-jisc.exe?A2=MCG;75b0ee37.2403Hello Oliver and apologies if you know this already.<br><br>There are literally hundreds if not thousands of CMS’s available and it is very difficult to evaluate what is right for your organisation and usage. Some have well supported communities and development paths - others not so much. There are comparative tools to help with some of the better know CMS’s you could search for but there are a few things to look for: [...]Oliver Vicars-Harris2024-03-14T18:28:12+00:002024-03-14T18:28:12+00:00Re: Umbraco CMShttps://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/wa-jisc.exe?A2=MCG;c749d06b.2403Thanks for such helpful thoughts and following on from this I wonder if<br>there are any strong views around *Craft* as another alternative to<br>WordPress?<br><br>I appreciate that there are some minor costs involved, but again it's open<br>source and built on PHP rather than .NET.<br><br>Many thanks,<br>Oliver<br><br>On Thu, 14 Mar 2024 at 15:09, Adam Coulson <adam.coulson@gmail.com> wrote: [...]Audrey Glasgow2024-03-14T16:05:58+00:002024-03-14T16:05:58+00:00Re: Digital Skills for Heritage Initiative Evaluation Webinarhttps://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/wa-jisc.exe?A2=MCG;1a51206.2403Hello again,<br><br>I wanted to follow up on this to share the recorded webinar, which the Digital Heritage Hub has shared here: https://www.culturehive.co.uk/digital-heritage-hub/resource/digital-skills-guides/video-digital-skills-for-heritage-initiative-evaluation-briefing/<br><br>All the best,<br>Audrey<br><br>From: Audrey Glasgow<br>Sent: Monday, March 4, 2024 4:55 PM<br>To: Museums Computer Group <mcg@jiscmail.ac.uk><br>Subject: RE: Digital Skills for Heritage Initiative Evaluation Webinar<br><br>Good afternoon all,<br><br>I’m delighted to be able to share the published Digital Skills for Heritage initiative evaluation report - The impact and legacy of our Digital Skills for Heritage initiative | The National Lottery Heritage Fund<https://www.heritagefund.org.uk/about/insight/evaluation/impact-and-legacy-digital-skills-heritage-initiative>. [...]Audrey Glasgow2024-03-14T16:04:18+00:002024-03-14T16:04:18+00:00National Lottery Heritage Fund Webinar - Digital heritage leadership briefing: open licensinghttps://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/wa-jisc.exe?A2=MCG;c615f54.2403Good afternoon all,<br><br>I’m pleased to share with you the upcoming webinar from the National Lottery Heritage Fund, “Digital heritage leadership briefing: open licensing,” on April 3rd, 2-3pm. Tickets are free and available here: https://www.ticketsource.co.uk/national-lottery-heritage-fund/t-qjkjajm<br><br>Digital heritage leadership briefing: open licensing<br>April 3rd, 2-3 pm<br><br>In April, we will be launching our new resource "Open Licensing: a digital heritage leadership briefing" commissioned by The National Lottery Heritage Fund and written by Andrea Wallace and Michael Weinberg of The GLAM-E Lab.<br>This resource is our second Digital Heritage Leadership Briefing. The Briefing focuses on Open Licensing to provide decision makers with [...]Kelly Molson2024-03-14T15:09:12+00:002024-03-14T15:09:12+00:00Re: WordPress developershttps://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/wa-jisc.exe?A2=MCG;75525523.2403Love to throw Rubber Cheese's hat in the ring too...<br><br>On Thu, 14 Mar 2024 at 13:27, Rosie Cardiff <<br>Rosie.Cardiff@sciencemuseum.ac.uk> wrote:<br><br>> Hi everyone,<br>><br>><br>><br>> We’ve got some WordPress development work required at the Science Museum<br>> Group and I’m looking for recommendations for WordPress developers or small<br>> WordPress agencies. Please let me know if you have anyone you would<br>> recommend.<br>><br>><br>><br>> And before Mike Ellis jumps in – I’ve got 38 Digital on the list ;)<br>><br>><br>><br>> Thanks<br>><br>><br>><br>> Rosie<br>><br>><br>><br>> [...]Tom Hardwidge2024-03-14T15:02:10+00:002024-03-14T15:02:10+00:00Re: [EXTERNAL EMAIL] WordPress developershttps://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/wa-jisc.exe?A2=MCG;4244d8ad.2403Hi Rosie,<br><br>We'd be happy to throw our hat into the ring too :)<br>Considered Creative: https://consideredcreative.com/ - we work primarily<br>with Wordpress and have worked on a large variety of projects and<br>websites for heritage clients, big and small.<br><br>Cheers<br>Tom<br><br>On 14/03/2024 14:57, Fiona Hodge wrote:<br>><br>> Hi Rosie,<br>><br>> A couple of agency recommendations from us at the V&A – all I recommend.<br>><br>> * BigBite (https://bigbite.net) an agency who we worked with to<br>> produce vam.ac.uk/mused <https://www.vam.ac.uk/mused/> with and<br>> design was handled separately by a freelancer -<br>> https://www.afterwards.ltd/<br>> * BigBigBlue [...]Nik Roberts2024-03-14T15:02:03+00:002024-03-14T15:02:03+00:00Re: WordPress developershttps://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/wa-jisc.exe?A2=MCG;abfba73f.2403No sales pitch, but it'd be remiss of me not to say "look at me! look at<br>me!". We build in Wordpress and Drupal, amongst other things. Get in touch<br>if you want a sales pitch, or just a chat.<br><br>Nik Roberts<br><br>Founder & CEO<br><br>Versantus<br><br>01865 422112 <01865422112><br><br>07540 118664 <07540118664><br><br>Frieze Farmhouse, Woodstock Rd, Oxford OX2 8JX<br><https://www.google.com/search?q=versantus&rlz=1C1CHBF_en-GBGB892GB892&oq=versantus&aqs=chrome.0.0i355i512j46i175i199i512j69i65l2j69i60j69i65j69i60l2.4840j0j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8#> [...]Adam Coulson2024-03-14T14:59:37+00:002024-03-14T14:59:37+00:00Re: Umbraco CMShttps://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/wa-jisc.exe?A2=MCG;e4aaebd0.2403Hi Oliver,<br><br>I've worked with Umbraco in a couple of different orgs, and find it to be<br>pretty robust. I've had good experience as a content editor and also when<br>building on it with an agency. The key (as others have mentioned) is<br>keeping it on an upgrade path and having the support/resources in place to<br>ensure it isn't left to wither on the vine. [...]Fiona Hodge2024-03-14T14:57:08+00:002024-03-14T14:57:08+00:00Re: [EXTERNAL EMAIL] WordPress developershttps://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/wa-jisc.exe?A2=MCG;11d81285.2403Hi Rosie,<br><br>A couple of agency recommendations from us at the V&A – all I recommend.<br><br>* BigBite (https://bigbite.net<https://bigbite.net/>) an agency who we worked with to produce vam.ac.uk/mused<https://www.vam.ac.uk/mused/> with and design was handled separately by a freelancer - https://www.afterwards.ltd/<br>* BigBigBlue Door(https://www.bigbluedoor.net<https://www.bigbluedoor.net/>) – agency who built and now host and manage our vam.ac.uk /blog<https://www.vam.ac.uk/blog/> and we are currently working with them on a site for our Research output<br>* Smithfield Studio - https://smithfield.studio<https://smithfield.studio/> – smaller agency who we’ve engaged for design support over the last couple of years, they also work on wordpress builds and have done V&A America’s Foundation<https://vamaf.org/> [...]Mike Ellis2024-03-14T14:36:58+00:002024-03-14T14:36:58+00:00Re: WordPress developershttps://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/wa-jisc.exe?A2=MCG;9a077cfb.2403Thanks Rosie… I think ;-)Alex Kron2024-03-14T10:30:12-04:002024-03-14T10:30:12-04:00Inclusive Design in Cultural Heritage: Embracing Sensory Processing and Neurodiversity Webinarhttps://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/wa-jisc.exe?A2=MCG;7ec88c99.2403Dear Colleagues,<br><br>As part of our ‘Dreaming of AI’ series, BPOC <https://bpoc.org/> is hosting<br>a webinar on Inclusive Design in Cultural Heritage: Embracing Sensory<br>Processing and Neurodiversity with Dr. Piper Hutson<br><https://www.linkedin.com/in/piper-hutson-77829925/> on April 8th at 8 AM<br>PT/11 AM ET. Dr. Hutson’s presentation will cover how the democratization<br>of access to cultural heritage stands as a pillar of societal progress, it<br>becomes imperative for institutions to adopt a framework of inclusivity<br>that transcends traditional boundaries. She will also delve into the<br>nuances of Inclusive Design within the realm of cultural heritage, with a<br>focused lens on sensory processing and [...]jim@museumnext.com2024-03-14T14:23:56+00:002024-03-14T14:23:56+00:00Museum Digital Summithttps://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/wa-jisc.exe?A2=MCG;e7365e5c.2403Hi All<br><br>List members will hopefully be interested to know that the Museum Digital Summit returns in just over a week, with two days of virtual presentations on the digital side of museums.<br><br>The presentations are top notch. Here’s a brief trailer: https://vimeo.com/923311194?share=copy<br><br>And you’ll find the event details on https://www.museumnext.com/events/museum-digital-summit/ (programme / speakers) [...]Mike Gogan2024-03-14T16:13:03+02:002024-03-14T16:13:03+02:00Re: WordPress developershttps://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/wa-jisc.exe?A2=MCG;6c39bdc8.2403Full message available at: <a href="https://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/wa-jisc.exe?A2=MCG;6c39bdc8.2403">Re: WordPress developers</a>Rosie Cardiff2024-03-14T13:17:28+00:002024-03-14T13:17:28+00:00WordPress developershttps://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/wa-jisc.exe?A2=MCG;c87d5ebf.2403Hi everyone,<br><br>We’ve got some WordPress development work required at the Science Museum Group and I’m looking for recommendations for WordPress developers or small WordPress agencies. Please let me know if you have anyone you would recommend.<br><br>And before Mike Ellis jumps in – I’ve got 38 Digital on the list ;) [...] Mia2024-03-14T11:58:39+00:002024-03-14T11:58:39+00:00Fwd: [ai4lam] Fantastic Futures Canberra 2024 Conference - CfP Now Openhttps://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/wa-jisc.exe?A2=MCG;89bfbf1d.2403Dear all,<br><br>Last year's conference in Vancouver was a fantastic opportunity to learn<br>from a bunch of different projects at once and connect with people working<br>on similar challenges. You don't have to have a talk to attend, of course,<br>but if you have something to share, it's a great place to share it! I think<br>there'll be an option for online presentations - TBC. [...]Rob Allen2024-03-14T11:22:43+00:002024-03-14T11:22:43+00:00Re: Umbraco CMShttps://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/wa-jisc.exe?A2=MCG;ea16332c.2403Hi Oliver,<br><br>I’ve not worked with Umbraco in a long time, so it may have improved since I last worked with it directly, but I would not recommend it myself based on my experience using it as a content manager in a previous role many years ago, and I believe its usage is on the decline. That itself may make it harder to find the right partner vs using a more popular CMS. [...]Defnet Media2024-03-14T10:45:14+00:002024-03-14T10:45:14+00:00Re: Umbraco CMShttps://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/wa-jisc.exe?A2=MCG;764713a2.2403Hi Oliver,<br><br>Umbraco was used to build a Heritage project site that I worked on as the<br>project manager - The website had been commissioned before I arrived sadly.<br>The choice I think all comes down to maintenance and changes to the site as<br>the project develops. We were paying about £800 per day for an<br>Umbraco developer, WordPress developers are a lot less than that. For small<br>scale organisations the learning curve is a lot less steep for Wordpress as<br>someone in the organisation is invariably familiar with it. [...]Mike Ellis2024-03-14T10:40:40+00:002024-03-14T10:40:40+00:00Re: Umbraco CMShttps://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/wa-jisc.exe?A2=MCG;fa6184b3.2403We’ve heard similar things to Andy - but also, bear in mind it’s .NET so a day-rate on developers is likely to be 2x / 3x the cost of anyone else.<br><br>cheers<br><br>MikeAndy Cummins2024-03-14T10:34:50+00:002024-03-14T10:34:50+00:00Re: Umbraco CMShttps://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/wa-jisc.exe?A2=MCG;e947a0cd.2403Hi Oliver,<br>We haven’t worked directly with Umbraco (as far as I can remember anyway) but we have had several enquiries in the past couple of years from organisations wishing to move away from it due to difficult upgrade paths from older versions. Might be worth investigating to make sure any ongoing maintenance doesn’t become overly complex. This may be less of an issue now it’s open source but worth considering. [...]Oliver Vicars-Harris2024-03-14T10:16:08+00:002024-03-14T10:16:08+00:00Umbraco CMShttps://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/wa-jisc.exe?A2=MCG;c0900a7b.2403I wonder if anyone has direct experience or strong views on the Umbraco<br>CMS, which is now open source?<br><br>I've just had a look back on the MCG archive and it hasn't been mentioned<br>on the list for over 10 years which might say something in itself...<br><br>As a potential alternative to WordPress, would it be a good or bad choice<br>for a cultural org with little or no digital expertise in-house? [...]Oliver Vicars-Harris2024-03-12T16:36:01+00:002024-03-12T16:36:01+00:00Re: Recommendation for Retail Systems Analysishttps://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/wa-jisc.exe?A2=MCG;ac526542.2403Hi Rachel,<br><br>I've been working with Rod in that capacity recently and would second<br>Sarah's recommendation.<br><br>All the best,<br>Oliver<br><br>Oliver Vicars-Harris<br><br>Connecting audiences to culture<br><br>+44 (0)7971 856060<br><br>www.connecting-culture.com<br><br><http://www.connecting-culture.com/><br><br>On Tue, 12 Mar 2024 at 15:33, Sarah | ReWork Consulting <<br>sarah@reworkconsulting.co.uk> wrote:<br><br>> Hi Rachel,<br>><br>> Rod Barlow is a specialist in the retail space, https://www.rodbarlow.com/<br>><br>> I hope that's helpful<br>><br>> Sarah<br>><br>> On Tue, 12 Mar 2024 at 15:26, Rachel Walker <<br>> Rachel.Walker@royalacademy.org.uk> wrote:<br>><br>>> Hi everyone,<br>>><br>>><br>>><br>>> We’re looking for a Business Analyst (and potentially [...]Sarah | ReWork Consulting2024-03-12T15:32:49+00:002024-03-12T15:32:49+00:00Re: Recommendation for Retail Systems Analysishttps://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/wa-jisc.exe?A2=MCG;6f8a333a.2403Hi Rachel,<br><br>Rod Barlow is a specialist in the retail space, https://www.rodbarlow.com/<br><br>I hope that's helpful<br><br>Sarah<br><br>On Tue, 12 Mar 2024 at 15:26, Rachel Walker <<br>Rachel.Walker@royalacademy.org.uk> wrote:<br><br>> Hi everyone,<br>><br>><br>><br>> We’re looking for a Business Analyst (and potentially a Solutions Analyst<br>> also) to work with our Retail team to define scope and requirements for a<br>> retail systems upgrade. This would a short piece of consultancy work<br>> focussed mostly on back-end retail systems, rather than ecommerce systems.<br>> Ideally this would take place over the next few months.<br>><br>><br>><br>> [...]Rachel Walker2024-03-12T15:24:59+00:002024-03-12T15:24:59+00:00Recommendation for Retail Systems Analysishttps://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/wa-jisc.exe?A2=MCG;29275930.2403Hi everyone,<br><br>We’re looking for a Business Analyst (and potentially a Solutions Analyst also) to work with our Retail team to define scope and requirements for a retail systems upgrade. This would a short piece of consultancy work focussed mostly on back-end retail systems, rather than ecommerce systems. Ideally this would take place over the next few months. [...]Adam Lumb2024-03-11T18:12:44+00:002024-03-11T18:12:44+00:00Re: Museum objects in virtual environmentshttps://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/wa-jisc.exe?A2=MCG;84914009.2403Thanks for posting that David. We do lots of that with the Gaming Sector at Royal Armouries Entertainment. I'll let Nick know.<br><br>Thank you,<br><br>Adam<br>Consultancy and Historical Research - Royal Armouries<https://images.royalarmouries.org/consultancy/><br><br>From: Museums Computer Group <MCG@JISCMAIL.AC.UK> On Behalf Of David Dawson<br>Sent: Friday, March 8, 2024 1:24 PM<br>To: MCG@JISCMAIL.AC.UK<br>Subject: Museum objects in virtual environments [...] Alex Kron2024-03-11T10:35:16-04:002024-03-11T10:35:16-04:00BPOC's Dreaming of AI: Perspectives on AI Use in Cultural Heritage Webinar Recordinghttps://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/wa-jisc.exe?A2=MCG;950f2a9c.2403Dear Colleagues,<br><br>BPOC <https://bpoc.org/> hosted another session of Dreaming of AI:<br>Perspectives on AI Use in Cultural Heritage on March 8th, where we heard<br>from Kerry Kennedy, Public Art Coordinator, and Dr. Eve Zucker,<br>Sociocultural Anthropologist, who shared their work and the impact of AI,<br>including its implications on the humanities, public art, and digital<br>memorialization. [...]Sophie Dietrich2024-03-11T12:27:12+00:002024-03-11T12:27:12+00:00FEW SPACES LEFT: Towards a National Collection Webinarshttps://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/wa-jisc.exe?A2=MCG;354ec5c4.2403Dear colleagues (with apologies for cross-posting)<br><br>if you are interested in digital heritage, co-designing experiences for digital collections and the use of new digital methods and tools, don’t miss our Towards a National Collection (TaNC) Discovery Project Webinar Series 2024. We have some great speakers lined up and look forward to welcoming you in the coming weeks. These online events are free and open to everyone, and we encourage you to share this invitation with anyone who may be interested. [...]Kelly Forbes2024-03-08T16:25:05+00:002024-03-08T16:25:05+00:00Re: Design language system / digital principleshttps://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/wa-jisc.exe?A2=MCG;1201af4f.2403Does anyone know if GOV.UK ever clarified if they were going to get rid of alt-text on their site images as they suggested last year<https://insidegovuk.blog.gov.uk/2023/08/10/making-it-easier-to-add-images-on-gov-uk/>? I can't see it in the link Alex shared and wondered if they rolled back and didn't tell anyone.<br><br>Kelly<br><br>Kelly Forbes (she/her)<br>Digital Manager<br>T: 0131 550 4112<br>E: Kellyf@museumsgalleriesscotland.org.uk<mailto:Kellyf@museumsgalleriesscotland.org.uk> [...] David Dawson2024-03-08T13:23:35+00:002024-03-08T13:23:35+00:00Museum objects in virtual environmentshttps://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/wa-jisc.exe?A2=MCG;b38414bf.2403All<br><br>Nick Poole, CEO of CLIP and soon to be CEO of UKIE - the games industry body - has just posted on Twitter<br><br>Way back in the early 2010's when museums were taking images of collections items, we talked about using 3D renders to generate art assets for virtual environments. Did anyone do it? Speaking to some game Devs who'd find a library of historically-accurate models rlly interesting! [...] Jenn Phillips-Bacher2024-03-08T12:59:33+00:002024-03-08T12:59:33+00:00Re: Design language system / digital principleshttps://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/wa-jisc.exe?A2=MCG;73fec12d.2403I led the team responsible for Wellcome Collection’s design system. One of<br>the big things we learned was that you really need a separate product team<br>responsible for the upkeep of the whole design system (which the likes of<br>GOV.UK and Co-op have). When new components are introduced, or you come<br>across evidence that a certain pattern isn’t working as intended, so<br>iterate it… someone has to create the content that makes the design system<br>usable across all digital disciplines and the wider organisation. [...]Paul Vetch2024-03-08T10:34:57+00:002024-03-08T10:34:57+00:00Re: Design language system / digital principleshttps://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/wa-jisc.exe?A2=MCG;77214122.2403Another comprehensive example from the US Department of Veteran Affairs:<br><br>https://design.va.gov/<br><br>- which includes a Storybook-based design system (based in turn on 18f’s US Web Design System) which can be directly integrated into a project, which is a really efficient approach:<br><br>https://design.va.gov/storybook/?path=/story/about-introduction--page<br><br>P<br><br>Paul Vetch<br>Director of Strategy | Torchbox Ltd<br>+44(0)7976 297 092 <tel:+44%207976%20297092><br>https://torchbox.com <https://torchbox.com/?utm_campaign=homepage&utm_medium=email&utm_source=email+signature><br><br>Jobs: Openings to work with a great team <https://torchbox.com/jobs/> for some amazing clients [...]John Benfield2024-03-08T10:26:12+00:002024-03-08T10:26:12+00:00Re: Design language system / digital principleshttps://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/wa-jisc.exe?A2=MCG;4af0f071.2403My favourite is the Co-Op Digital Team's:<br><br>https://static.coop.co.uk/experience-library/<br><br>John Benfield<br>Website Product Owner<br>RSPB<br><br>On Fri, 8 Mar 2024 at 10:13, Elizabeth McCarthy <<br>0000c3a91095e914-dmarc-request@jiscmail.ac.uk> wrote:<br><br>> Recently pulled together a few nice ones, some more focused on design and<br>> components than others and with a higher ed slant…:<br>><br>><br>><br>> - UCL: https://design-system.ucl.ac.uk/<br>> - GDS: https://design-system.service.gov.uk<br>> - Stanford: https://decanter.stanford.edu<br>> - Apple HI guidelines:<br>> https://developer.apple.com/design/human-interface-guidelines<br>> - Vanderbilt: https://vanderbilt-design-system.netlify.app<br>><br>><br>><br>><br>><br>> Liz McCarthy<br>><br>> Head of Campaigns and Digital Communications<br>><br>> Public Affairs Directorate | University of [...]Elizabeth McCarthy2024-03-08T10:12:39+00:002024-03-08T10:12:39+00:00Re: Design language system / digital principleshttps://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/wa-jisc.exe?A2=MCG;ce8b700.2403Recently pulled together a few nice ones, some more focused on design and components than others and with a higher ed slant…:<br><br>* UCL: https://design-system.ucl.ac.uk/<br>* GDS: https://design-system.service.gov.uk<br>* Stanford: https://decanter.stanford.edu<br>* Apple HI guidelines: https://developer.apple.com/design/human-interface-guidelines<br>* Vanderbilt: https://vanderbilt-design-system.netlify.app<br><br>Liz McCarthy<br>Head of Campaigns and Digital Communications<br>Public Affairs Directorate | University of Oxford<br>Tel: 01865 280474<br><br>From: Museums Computer Group <MCG@JISCMAIL.AC.UK> on behalf of Tarling, Alex <0000afb0311be602-dmarc-request@JISCMAIL.AC.UK><br>Date: Friday, 8 March 2024 at 10:07<br>To: MCG@JISCMAIL.AC.UK <MCG@JISCMAIL.AC.UK><br>Subject: Re: [MCG] Design language system / digital principles<br>Hi, [...] Tarling, Alex2024-03-08T10:06:34+00:002024-03-08T10:06:34+00:00Re: Design language system / digital principleshttps://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/wa-jisc.exe?A2=MCG;19ea2094.2403Hi,<br><br>There's the Gov.uk one:<br><br>https://design-system.service.gov.uk/?languageid=1<br><br>Sent from Outlook for Android<https://aka.ms/AAb9ysg><br><br>Sensitivity: General Mike Ellis2024-03-08T09:43:26+00:002024-03-08T09:43:26+00:00Design language system / digital principleshttps://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/wa-jisc.exe?A2=MCG;f3cce119.2403Hi all<br><br>I came across this the other day while doing some digital strategy researching: https://dls.tepapa.govt.nz/<br><br>It’s pretty amazing, but a bit old - and I’m wondering if list members have similar systems / examples of more up to date versions? Or examples of published design language / digital strategy / DLS / patterns? Particularly interested in museums (obviously!) - but wider examples also of interest if you have them! [...]Merritt, Sara2024-03-08T09:37:58+00:002024-03-08T09:37:58+00:00Your Secure Mail Activation Informationhttps://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/wa-jisc.exe?A2=MCG;a1073db5.2403You Have a New Secure Mail Message<br>"Merritt, Sara" <sara.merritt@leeds.gov.uk> has sent you an encrypted message via Secure Mail.<br><br>Subject: RE: Your Secure Mail Activation Information - suspicious message<br>Sent: March 8, 2024 9:37:43 AM, GMT<br><br>RECOVERY INFORMATION:<br><br>To view this message, visit the URL below to create a Secure Mail account. Once you've created your account, you can view your messages you receive from "Merritt, Sara" <sara.merritt@leeds.gov.uk> directly from your Secure Mail account: [...]Thomas Briggs2024-03-07T17:39:42+00:002024-03-07T17:39:42+00:00Re: Your Secure Mail Activation Information - suspicious messagehttps://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/wa-jisc.exe?A2=MCG;b490678a.2403I've seen this happen in another email chat group: it seems that some<br>organisations use encrypted internal email, and when using that same<br>email address to send external emails, they sometimes forget to turn the<br>encryption off.<br><br>I don't think it's spam/scam/forgery; it's just a level of security that is<br>perhaps unnecessary for a mailing list that can be joined by all and sundry! [...]Richard Light2024-03-07T17:20:55+00:002024-03-07T17:20:55+00:00Re: Your Secure Mail Activation Information - suspicious messagehttps://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/wa-jisc.exe?A2=MCG;65ce98a7.2403I just deleted it. If Catherine Price wants to post to the MCG list, can<br>she please send unencrypted emails?<br><br>Richard<br><br>On 07/03/2024 17:15, Leonard Will wrote:<br>><br>> Is this spam/scam or forgery? I don't think anyone would send an<br>> invitation to the MCG mailing list to sign up for secure mail like<br>> this, without any explanation. Who are "securemail.clearswift.com"?<br>><br>> Leonard Will<br>><br>> On 07/03/2024 12:50, Price, Catherine wrote:<br>>> You Have a New Secure Mail Message<br>>> Secure Mail Secure Mail (logo)<br>>><br>>> "Price, Catherine" <catherine.price@leeds.gov.uk> has sent you an<br>>> encrypted [...]Leonard Will2024-03-07T17:15:17+00:002024-03-07T17:15:17+00:00Re: Your Secure Mail Activation Information - suspicious messagehttps://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/wa-jisc.exe?A2=MCG;23476223.2403Is this spam/scam or forgery? I don't think anyone would send an<br>invitation to the MCG mailing list to sign up for secure mail like this,<br>without any explanation. Who are "securemail.clearswift.com"?<br><br>Leonard Will<br><br>On 07/03/2024 12:50, Price, Catherine wrote:<br>> You Have a New Secure Mail Message<br>> Secure Mail Secure Mail (logo)<br>><br>> "Price, Catherine" <catherine.price@leeds.gov.uk> has sent you an<br>> encrypted message via Secure Mail. You have *30 day(s) left* to<br>> collect this message before it expires.<br>><br>> * *Subject:* User Accessibility Terms<br>> * *Sent:* March 7, 2024 12:50:45 PM, GMT<br>> * [...]Josh Kopeček - Echoes2024-03-07T14:40:00+00:002024-03-07T14:40:00+00:00Video/tablet to external device (mobile) audio synchttps://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/wa-jisc.exe?A2=MCG;a60c2b48.2403Hi everyone,<br><br>We've had a few queries over the years about synchronising a visitor's<br>device (phone) to a video display, both in heritage contexts and as part of<br>installation art. The idea is that a visitor walks up to a display and can<br>'listen in' using their headphones/device without disturbing those nearby.<br><br>We have a solution which would work in some contexts, and I was wondering<br>if anyone in the group was interested in working together to develop and<br>test it? [...]Price, Catherine2024-03-07T12:50:59+00:002024-03-07T12:50:59+00:00Your Secure Mail Activation Informationhttps://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/wa-jisc.exe?A2=MCG;e7043379.2403You Have a New Secure Mail Message<br>"Price, Catherine" <catherine.price@leeds.gov.uk> has sent you an encrypted message via Secure Mail.<br><br>Subject: User Accessibility Terms<br>Sent: March 7, 2024 12:50:45 PM, GMT<br><br>RECOVERY INFORMATION:<br><br>To view this message, visit the URL below to create a Secure Mail account. Once you've created your account, you can view your messages you receive from "Price, Catherine" <catherine.price@leeds.gov.uk> directly from your Secure Mail account: [...]jim@museumnext.com2024-03-07T09:30:19+00:002024-03-07T09:30:19+00:00Museum XR Projects?https://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/wa-jisc.exe?A2=MCG;c3d9064f.2403Hi All<br><br>In June we’re holding our second Museum XR Summit.<br><br>We had some great presentations last time around, and hoping that we’ll get some great case studies this year.<br><br>If anyone is working in that area and has something to showcase, please consider putting a talk forward whether you’re working in a museum or work in a company that creates these experiences: https://www.museumnext.com/events/museum-xr-summit/ [...]Arran Rees2024-03-06T09:02:59+00:002024-03-06T09:02:59+00:00Museum Social Media Cultures seminar serieshttps://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/wa-jisc.exe?A2=MCG;5742d86.2403Dear all,<br><br>Please excuse any cross-posting.<br><br>There is currently a free online seminar series focusing on different aspects of Museum and Social Media taking place every Thursday from February 29th to April 11th at 18:00 EET, 16:00 GMT, and 11:00 EST, to 11th April (with some breaks for half terms etc).<br><br>Talks include: [...] Yogesh Sharma2024-03-05T21:15:04+00:002024-03-05T21:15:04+00:00Re: Cookie and privacy policieshttps://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/wa-jisc.exe?A2=MCG;ee5a635e.2403Hello Marina,<br><br>I would recommend contacting Mark Gracey for *Mark Gracey GDPR*<br><https://MarkGraceyGDPR.co.uk>.<br><br>I have used Mark's services for several years across multiple organisations<br>to assist in drafting and reviewing Cookie Polices, Privacy Notices; etc.<br>he is very knowledgeable and reliable.<br><br>Hope this helps<br><br>--Yogesh<br><br>Sent from my iPad<br><br>On Tue, 5 Mar 2024 at 17:15, Marina Elvira Ruiz <<br>marina.elvira.ruiz@postalmuseum.org> wrote: [...]Marina Elvira Ruiz2024-03-05T17:04:04+00:002024-03-05T17:04:04+00:00Cookie and privacy policieshttps://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/wa-jisc.exe?A2=MCG;e7bb632f.2403Hello,<br><br>The Digital Markets Act is coming in tomorrow 6th March, so we're in the process of updating our consent banner and our cookie policies.<br><br>We wanted to check how other venues have updated their cookie policies?<br><br>Does anyone know of a consultant with a focus on cookies and privacy policies?<br><br>Thanks,<br><br>Marina Elvira Ruiz (she/her)<br>Digital Engagement Manager<br>The Postal Museum | 15-20 Phoenix Place | London WC1X 0DA<br>T: +44 (0)300 0300 700 x 204 | E: marina.elvira.ruiz@postalmuseum.org [...] Katie Moffat2024-03-05T12:20:17+00:002024-03-05T12:20:17+00:00R&D education bookings projecthttps://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/wa-jisc.exe?A2=MCG;f10482a2.2403Hello,<br>Some of you might be interested in an R&D project Substrakt is developing.<br><br>Over the past couple of years we've worked closely with Graeme Ellis, Sarah Wren, and the team at Science Museum Group to deliver a new online, self-service solution for education group bookings (there's more about the project here: https://substrakt.com/our-work/a-new-group-bookings-solution-for-the-science-museum-group). This work has been really successful, and the Science Museum Group now take over 80% of this type of booking online through the new platform. [...]jim@museumnext.com2024-03-05T07:20:06+00:002024-03-05T07:20:06+00:00Museum Digital Summithttps://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/wa-jisc.exe?A2=MCG;fead7d44.2403Hi All<br><br>MCG list members may be interested that the MuseumNext - Museum Digital Summit ( https://www.museumnext.com/events/museum-digital-summit ) returns on 25 - 26 March. This is still virtual and can be watched live or on-demand.<br><br>We’ve got an international line up of talks from speakers representing Tate, Fine Arts Museums of San Francisco, M+, Science Museum, Royal Academy of Arts, National Portrait Gallery, Netherlands Institute of Sound & Vision, Discover Children's Story Centre, Art Processors, New York Hall of Science, National Museum of African American History and Culture, National Archives, Swedish Museum of Natural History, Deutsches Filminstitut & Filmmuseum, Trimontium [...]Mia2024-03-05T00:08:20+00:002024-03-05T00:08:20+00:00British Library and Guardian event on the impact of generative AI on information and media organisationshttps://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/wa-jisc.exe?A2=MCG;a405772.2403For folk who can get to London...<br><br>The British Library and the Guardian are holding an event, 'Safeguarding<br>Tomorrow: The impact of AI in media & information industries'. It's on<br>Monday, 11 March 2024 from 2 - 5:20pm for the conference with a networking<br>reception 5:30 - 7pm GMT.<br><br>The main topics are 'Copyright in the age of algorithms' and 'Understanding<br>and addressing AI generated misinformation and bias'. Panellists represent<br>politics, authors and publishing, media, libraries and Wikimedia. [...]Mia2024-03-04T23:44:22+00:002024-03-04T23:44:22+00:00Interoperable Text Framework (ITF)https://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/wa-jisc.exe?A2=MCG;c8e94126.2403As there's been some discussion of text formats, I thought people might be<br>interested in the Interoperable Text Framework (ITF) project:<br><br>'Unlocking Digital Texts (UDT) aims to lay the foundation for the creation<br>of the Interoperable Text Framework (ITF). Just as the International Image<br>Interoperability Framework (IIIF) enables users to present, annotate and<br>reuse digital images easily without having to worry about the underlying<br>infrastructure, ITF will empower users to create a richer and more layered<br>approach to the presentation, analysis and reuse of textual resources.' [...]Bob Clark2024-03-04T23:26:05+00:002024-03-04T23:26:05+00:00Re: OCR for Transcribing Printed Texthttps://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/wa-jisc.exe?A2=MCG;f3c78e39.2403Mia<br><br>Thank you. In this case there is no need to preserve any of the original formatting – the museum holds the entire opus as print-format objects to which reference could always be made. This is simply an exercise in bringing this author’s work into the digital domain, for the present and future generations to do with as they wish. So in this I hear you: .txt files are the optimum long-term file format. That bit shouldn’t be difficult to achieve! [...]Mia2024-03-04T23:20:11+00:002024-03-04T23:20:11+00:00Re: OCR for Transcribing Printed Texthttps://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/wa-jisc.exe?A2=MCG;c41969fb.2403If you don't need to preserve formatting, plain .txt files should be<br>readable until the end of (computational) time... as Richard and Rupert<br>say, XML will let you record additional information about the text, so it's<br>a richer record of the original text on the page.<br><br>Cheers,<br>MiaAudrey Glasgow2024-03-04T16:55:16+00:002024-03-04T16:55:16+00:00Re: Digital Skills for Heritage Initiative Evaluation Webinarhttps://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/wa-jisc.exe?A2=MCG;ab68da32.2403Good afternoon all,<br><br>I’m delighted to be able to share the published Digital Skills for Heritage initiative evaluation report - The impact and legacy of our Digital Skills for Heritage initiative | The National Lottery Heritage Fund<https://www.heritagefund.org.uk/about/insight/evaluation/impact-and-legacy-digital-skills-heritage-initiative>.<br><br>Looking forward to exploring the findings further in the webinar on March 8th, 2-3pm, shared below. [...]Rupert Shepherd2024-03-04T10:44:25+00:002024-03-04T10:44:25+00:00Re: OCR for Transcribing Printed Texthttps://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/wa-jisc.exe?A2=MCG;d85a92.2403Yes, Richard’s right, the NG is using TEI-compliant XML to deliver some online catalogues and publications – more to follow soon. See:<br><br>* https://www.nationalgallery.org.uk/research/research-resources/national-gallery-catalogues/online-extracts<br>* https://www.nationalgallery.org.uk/research/research-resources/exhibition-catalogues/fruits-of-the-spirit-art-from-the-heart<br>(FWIW, I wrote this up with Jeremy Ottevanger, who’s been writing our XSL) for the 2021 CIDOC conference: https://rupertshepherd.info/publications/conferences/traditional-catalogues-and-digital-possibilities)<br><br>Having asked people to try to extract bibliographies from apparently consistently-formatted Word files as structured bibliographic data – and seen the format tagging that’s retained when converting .DOCX to TEI XML using https://teigarage.tei-c.org/# - I can also confirm that MS Word formatting mark-up sucks. [...]Stuart Berry2024-03-04T10:39:41+00:002024-03-04T10:39:41+00:00The Digital Learning Network (DLNET) has a new digital homehttps://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/wa-jisc.exe?A2=MCG;f3a15076.2403Dear Colleagues and apologies for cross-posting...<br><br>The Digital Learning Network (DLNET) has been a little quiet of late, but those who follow us on social media may have seen that the committee have been busy over the last few months whilst we work toward preparing some new material and some new content for our new digital home... [...] Richard Light2024-03-04T10:28:32+00:002024-03-04T10:28:32+00:00Re: OCR for Transcribing Printed Texthttps://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/wa-jisc.exe?A2=MCG;9607ce45.2403On 04/03/2024 08:47, Bob Clark wrote:<br>> Can I now ask a subsidiary question, which is about the best file<br>> format for long-term preservation? I asked this here quote some years<br>> ago for old photographs, and was advised that the most stable<br>> long-term digital image file was a TIFF, because although large it is<br>> uncompressed and contains the maximum possible amount of date that can<br>> be retrieved from the non-digital original. But what about text? <br>> What’s the best type of archive file? To my mind the appearance is<br>> not the issue – if [...]Knox, Dr Alan G.2024-03-04T10:24:59+00:002024-03-04T10:24:59+00:00Re: OCR for Transcribing Printed Texthttps://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/wa-jisc.exe?A2=MCG;cecd3760.2403Hi Bob<br><br>There seem to be a number of book scanners on the market but I don't know how they stack up. I'd be interested to hear from anyone here with experience of the hardware & software.<br><br>https://classroomstore.co.uk/product/czur-m3000-pro/?utm_source=Google%20Shopping&utm_campaign=Google%20Feed&utm_medium=cpc&utm_term=16604&gad_source=1&gclid=Cj0KCQiAzoeuBhDqARIsAMdH14FCpmux3FULtJoyg5ljvnqk9-uaEZRiNUrjE0eiCVpT1fHirj6woF8aAnINEALw_wcB<br><br>https://www.digitalcameraworld.com/buying-guides/best-book-scanner<br><br>Alan<br><br>Dr Alan Knox<br>Emeritus Head of Museums<br>Museums and Special Collections<br>University of Aberdeen<br>AB24 3AA<br><br>From: Museums Computer Group <MCG@JISCMAIL.AC.UK> On Behalf Of Bob Clark<br>Sent: Monday, March 4, 2024 9:47 AM<br>To: MCG@JISCMAIL.AC.UK<br>Subject: Re: [MCG] OCR for Transcribing Printed Text [...] Info at Bellingham2024-03-04T09:48:42+00:002024-03-04T09:48:42+00:00Re: OCR for Transcribing Printed Texthttps://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/wa-jisc.exe?A2=MCG;c80849b4.2403I will dig it out as soon as I can.<br><br>Steve<br><br>> On 4 Mar 2024, at 09:47, Bob Clark <bob.clark@AUCHINDRAIN.ORG.UK> wrote:<br>><br>> Can you share a link to the product? £360 is in the realm of the affordable!<br>><br>> Bob<br>><br>> BOB CLARK MA (Oxon), MSc, FMA, FSA Scot<br>> Director of Auchindrain Township<br>><br>> bob.clark@auchindrain.org.uk <mailto:bob.clark@auchindrain.org.uk><br>> 07770 420999<br>> 01499 400235 (Reception)<br>> www.auchindrain.org.uk <http://www.auchindrain.org.uk/><br>><br>> Urras Achadh an Droighinn/The Auchindrain Trust<br>> Bail' Ach' an Droighinn/Auchindrain Township<br>> Ionar Aora/Inveraray<br>> Earra Ghàidheal/Argyll<br>> PA32 8WD<br>><br>> Scottish Charitable Incorporated [...]Bob Clark2024-03-04T09:47:08+00:002024-03-04T09:47:08+00:00Re: OCR for Transcribing Printed Texthttps://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/wa-jisc.exe?A2=MCG;6c9a605b.2403Can you share a link to the product? £360 is in the realm of the affordable!<br><br>Bob<br><br>BOB CLARK MA (Oxon), MSc, FMA, FSA Scot<br>Director of Auchindrain Township<br><br>bob.clark@auchindrain.org.uk<mailto:bob.clark@auchindrain.org.uk><br>07770 420999<br>01499 400235 (Reception)<br>www.auchindrain.org.uk<http://www.auchindrain.org.uk/><br><br>Urras Achadh an Droighinn/The Auchindrain Trust<br>Bail' Ach' an Droighinn/Auchindrain Township<br>Ionar Aora/Inveraray<br>Earra Ghàidheal/Argyll<br>PA32 8WD<br><br>Scottish Charitable Incorporated Organisation Number SC015528<br><br>[cid:image001.jpg@01DA6E18.EB1C93C0]<br><br>From: Museums Computer Group <MCG@JISCMAIL.AC.UK> On Behalf Of Info at Bellingham<br>Sent: Monday, March 4, 2024 9:44 AM<br>To: MCG@JISCMAIL.AC.UK<br>Subject: Re: OCR for Transcribing Printed Text [...]Info at Bellingham2024-03-04T09:43:53+00:002024-03-04T09:43:53+00:00Re: OCR for Transcribing Printed Texthttps://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/wa-jisc.exe?A2=MCG;329b9545.2403We paid around £360 for one last year.<br><br>> On 4 Mar 2024, at 09:34, Bob Clark <bob.clark@AUCHINDRAIN.ORG.UK> wrote:<br>><br>> That’s a helpful thought. How many million pounds does one of these cost? Are there commercial services who will do the initial scans?<br>><br>> Bob<br>><br>> BOB CLARK MA (Oxon), MSc, FMA, FSA Scot<br>> Director of Auchindrain Township<br>><br>> bob.clark@auchindrain.org.uk <mailto:bob.clark@auchindrain.org.uk><br>> 07770 420999<br>> 01499 400235 (Reception)<br>> www.auchindrain.org.uk <http://www.auchindrain.org.uk/><br>><br>> Urras Achadh an Droighinn/The Auchindrain Trust<br>> Bail' Ach' an Droighinn/Auchindrain Township<br>> Ionar Aora/Inveraray<br>> Earra Ghàidheal/Argyll<br>> PA32 8WD<br>><br> [...]Bob Clark2024-03-04T09:34:14+00:002024-03-04T09:34:14+00:00Re: OCR for Transcribing Printed Texthttps://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/wa-jisc.exe?A2=MCG;a67e8970.2403That’s a helpful thought. How many million pounds does one of these cost? Are there commercial services who will do the initial scans?<br><br>Bob<br><br>BOB CLARK MA (Oxon), MSc, FMA, FSA Scot<br>Director of Auchindrain Township<br><br>bob.clark@auchindrain.org.uk<mailto:bob.clark@auchindrain.org.uk><br>07770 420999<br>01499 400235 (Reception)<br>www.auchindrain.org.uk<http://www.auchindrain.org.uk/><br><br>Urras Achadh an Droighinn/The Auchindrain Trust<br>Bail' Ach' an Droighinn/Auchindrain Township<br>Ionar Aora/Inveraray<br>Earra Ghàidheal/Argyll<br>PA32 8WD<br><br>Scottish Charitable Incorporated Organisation Number SC015528 [...]Info at Bellingham2024-03-04T09:12:50+00:002024-03-04T09:12:50+00:00Re: OCR for Transcribing Printed Texthttps://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/wa-jisc.exe?A2=MCG;2400e1f5.2403For scanning we use an overhead scanner with foot pedal. The software allows for the distortion of a page on a bound book which a flat bed scanner does not usually do. The use of a foot pedal means that scanning is quicker - turn the page and hold the book down firmly but not so hard as to damage the spine, touch the foot pedal and repeat. All depends on your funds of course. [...]Alec Ward2024-03-04T09:04:55+00:002024-03-04T09:04:55+00:00MCG Membership survey reminderhttps://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/wa-jisc.exe?A2=MCG;8798b03a.2403Morning MCGers,<br><br>The committee would like to say a big thank you to everyone who has completed our membership survey so far, we really appreciate your input. There's still time to contribute your insights, with the survey closing on the 29th of March. You can find the survey here: https://forms.gle/UMY15TqvNdQD4nm57. If you have any questions, feel free to drop me a line (alec.ward@theaudienceagency.org). [...] Bob Clark2024-03-04T08:47:30+00:002024-03-04T08:47:30+00:00Re: OCR for Transcribing Printed Texthttps://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/wa-jisc.exe?A2=MCG;1fe273bb.2403Mia<br><br>Thank you for this endorsement of Transkribus – over time I have come to recognise that you tend to know what you are talking about. I think I can indeed get my head around how it works! The little experiment I have done with the free version indicates that the output from processing each scanner or camera jpg of a page will be very substantially accurate text that will simply paste into a Word document and need no more than proof-reading and a bit of formatting. I do wish there was a magic trick to scanning the individual pages [...]Mia2024-03-04T01:05:55+00:002024-03-04T01:05:55+00:00Re: OCR for Transcribing Printed Texthttps://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/wa-jisc.exe?A2=MCG;47efb07e.2403Transkribus is a good option but it can take folk a while to get their head<br>around how it works. You can also transcribe with ChatGPT if you know<br>someone with a paid version.<br><br>You can transcribe 100 pages for free with the Abbyy Fine Reader trial<br>https://pdf.abbyy.com/download/ or use the open source Tesseract<br>https://tesseract-ocr.github.io/tessdoc/ [...]Mike Gogan2024-03-04T08:35:28+08:002024-03-04T08:35:28+08:00Re: OCR for Transcribing Printed Texthttps://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/wa-jisc.exe?A2=MCG;88e30c4.2403Full message available at: <a href="https://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/wa-jisc.exe?A2=MCG;88e30c4.2403">Re: OCR for Transcribing Printed Text</a>Bob Clark2024-03-03T14:47:35+00:002024-03-03T14:47:35+00:00Re: OCR for Transcribing Printed Texthttps://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/wa-jisc.exe?A2=MCG;a9acaed5.2403These poems have never been digitised, and they are still in copyright. This is a project being undertaken jointly between the museum and the copyright holder, and represents the first digitisation of a pre-internet author whose opus exists only in print. Most are in books, a few in periodicals. Jiscmail won't let me attach samples because the files are too large. [...]Andy Mabbett2024-03-03T14:04:56+00:002024-03-03T14:04:56+00:00Re: OCR for Transcribing Printed Texthttps://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/wa-jisc.exe?A2=MCG;7dafe9e8.2403On Sun, 3 Mar 2024 at 09:00, Bob Clark <bob.clark@auchindrain.org.uk> wrote:<br><br>> I have a substantial body of work – several hundred poems, which at present exist only in print in books. These need to be digitised as part of a museum-based project. In technical terms, what is the easiest way of going about this? [...]Deirdre Ní Chonghaile2024-03-03T13:38:49+00:002024-03-03T13:38:49+00:00Re: OCR for Transcribing Printed Texthttps://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/wa-jisc.exe?A2=MCG;4de52234.2403Hi Bob,<br>Have been using Transkribus for over a year.<br>Are your poems all in the same language? Are there different typefaces? These two questions will impact your choice of OCR model to apply to the pages you run.<br>How compact is the print? When text is small, there is an additional step you can add to the workflow to improve the output.<br>Does your plan include post-OCR correction work? Or will raw OCR output suffice for your purposes? A key choice that can impact correction time is whether corrections are applied at line-level or word-level. If there are a [...]Bob Clark2024-03-03T12:37:10+00:002024-03-03T12:37:10+00:00Re: OCR for Transcribing Printed Texthttps://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/wa-jisc.exe?A2=MCG;39a8015d.2403Thank you Rebecca, that’s very helpful. I have had a look at Transkribus, and if no=one else suggests anything better that will be a lot better than what we have been doing.<br><br>Bob<br><br>BOB CLARK MA (Oxon), MSc, FMA, FSA Scot<br>Director of Auchindrain Township<br><br>bob.clark@auchindrain.org.uk<mailto:bob.clark@auchindrain.org.uk><br>07770 420999<br>01499 400235 (Reception)<br>www.auchindrain.org.uk<http://www.auchindrain.org.uk/><br><br>Urras Achadh an Droighinn/The Auchindrain Trust<br>Bail' Ach' an Droighinn/Auchindrain Township<br>Ionar Aora/Inveraray<br>Earra Ghàidheal/Argyll<br>PA32 8WD [...]Rebecca Kahn2024-03-03T10:50:54+01:002024-03-03T10:50:54+01:00Re: OCR for Transcribing Printed Texthttps://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/wa-jisc.exe?A2=MCG;b7756420.2403Full message available at: <a href="https://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/wa-jisc.exe?A2=MCG;b7756420.2403">Re: OCR for Transcribing Printed Text</a>Bob Clark2024-03-03T09:00:53+00:002024-03-03T09:00:53+00:00OCR for Transcribing Printed Texthttps://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/wa-jisc.exe?A2=MCG;65fb8ce3.2403I hope this is not too basic a question for this distinguished company.<br><br>I have a substantial body of work - several hundred poems, which at present exist only in print in books. These need to be digitised as part of a museum-based project. In technical terms, what is the easiest way of going about this? [...] Drew Baker2024-03-01T16:20:45+00:002024-03-01T16:20:45+00:00ANN: ON-LINE WORKSHOP Defining Paradata, Metadata & Data for Documenting 2D/3D Digital Cultural Heritagehttps://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/wa-jisc.exe?A2=MCG;51177a0.2403Dear MCGers,<br><br>The UNESCO Chair on Digital Cultural Heritage<https://digitalheritagelab.eu/> and the EUreka3D<https://eureka3d.eu/> initiative is pleased to announce that registration for an online workshop on Paradata, Metadata and Data documentation for Cultural Heritage is now open. Details for registration and submission of abstracts follow ...<br><br>ON-LINE WORKSHOP Defining Paradata, Metadata & Data for Documenting 2D/3D Digital Cultural Heritage [...] Phil Blume2024-03-01T15:39:57+00:002024-03-01T15:39:57+00:00Re: Transcription software?https://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/wa-jisc.exe?A2=MCG;b165cc59.2403Hi folks<br><br>This may be stating the obvious, but have you tried simply playing the video with the sound turned up with MS Word running in dictation mode?<br><br>It appears to work, although the text will probably need some fine tuning.<br><br>Cheers, Phil<br><br>> On 1 Mar 2024, at 11:53, Alex Chan <alex@ALEXWLCHAN.NET> wrote:<br>><br>> Hi Ed!<br>><br>> On Fri, 1 Mar 2024 at 10:45, Ed Bankes <Ed.Bankes@royalacademy.org.uk> wrote:<br>><br>>> A colleague of mine needs to gather transcripts for a large number of videos on YouTube. These are videos on other channels, not our own (so we [...]Anna Sofia Lippolis - annasofia.lippolis@studio.unibo.it2024-03-01T14:53:12+00:002024-03-01T14:53:12+00:00Call for proposals: Texts, Languages, and Communities - TEI 2024https://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/wa-jisc.exe?A2=MCG;765390ce.2403The Program Committee is pleased to announce its call for proposals for the 24th annual Conference and Members’ Meeting of the Text Encoding Initiative Consortium (TEI), which will be held October 9-11, 2024 (Wed-Fri), at the Universidad del Salvador, Buenos Aires, Argentina; with pre-conference workshops October 7–8 (Mon-Tue).<br><br>This year’s theme is Texts, languages, and communities. [...] Alex Chan2024-03-01T11:53:22+00:002024-03-01T11:53:22+00:00Re: Transcription software?https://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/wa-jisc.exe?A2=MCG;db20bce7.2403Hi Ed!<br><br>On Fri, 1 Mar 2024 at 10:45, Ed Bankes <Ed.Bankes@royalacademy.org.uk> wrote:<br><br>> A colleague of mine needs to gather transcripts for a large number of videos on YouTube. These are videos on other channels, not our own (so we don’t have the srt files knocking around).<br>> Can anyone recommend transcription software that she could use, or any other smart ways of gathering that text without having to meticulously watch along and type it all out? [...]Hardy , Michael (DIGITAL ENGAGEMENT CURATOR)2024-03-01T11:24:35+00:002024-03-01T11:24:35+00:00Re: Transcription software?https://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/wa-jisc.exe?A2=MCG;64af733a.2403Hi Ed,<br><br>Auto transcription and captions have come a long way in the last few years! I remember the days where I spent ages turning ‘bouncy’ back into ‘Barnsley’ Weirdly I’ve found that Facebook does a better job than YouTube and it generates text almost instantly which can be downloaded as an SRT file (all of which can be done without the need to publish to Facebook) [...]Paula Granados García2024-03-01T11:12:34+00:002024-03-01T11:12:34+00:00Re: Transcription software?https://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/wa-jisc.exe?A2=MCG;8fc316f4.2403Hi Ed,<br><br>We use ELAN https://archive.mpi.nl/tla/elan. It's open source and it works<br>quite well. You can export the transcriptions/translations as srt or any<br>other formats.<br><br>There are also many tutorials on YouTube on how to use it<br>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wB9vfp8evEI&list=PLbrdiLu-X26xApyW0xqRt74Kp3TbNqr-b<br><br>Hope this helps,<br>Best wishes,<br>Paula<br><br>*Dr Paula Loreto Granados García *<br><br>Digital and Operations Manager, Endangered Material Knowledge Programme<br><br>Visiting Research Fellow, Digital Humanities Research Hub, SAS, UoL [...]Emma Simpson2024-03-01T11:02:00+00:002024-03-01T11:02:00+00:00Re: Transcription software?https://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/wa-jisc.exe?A2=MCG;244b874.2403Hi Ed<br><br>I use the free Otter app, downloaded onto my phone, then play the video on my laptop to create transcripts. Really easy to use.<br><br>Best wishes<br><br>Emma Simpson<br>Cultural Engagement Assistant<br>Kirklees Museums & Galleries<br><br>From: Museums Computer Group <MCG@JISCMAIL.AC.UK<mailto:MCG@JISCMAIL.AC.UK>> On Behalf Of Ed Bankes<br>Sent: Friday, March 1, 2024 10:34 AM<br>To: MCG@JISCMAIL.AC.UK<mailto:MCG@JISCMAIL.AC.UK><br>Subject: Transcription software? [...]Mike Ellis2024-03-01T11:01:07+00:002024-03-01T11:01:07+00:00Re: Transcription software?https://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/wa-jisc.exe?A2=MCG;f7ab0c1d.2403Mark got there first :-)<br><br>Something like https://youtubemp3free.com/en/ will get you the mp3, then up into Word...<br><br>MikeFolklore Library2024-03-01T10:59:08+00:002024-03-01T10:59:08+00:00Re: Transcription software?https://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/wa-jisc.exe?A2=MCG;235ee998.2403If you don't want to spend any money on software at the trail stage, you<br>can also scrape the audio into an mp3 and put it into Microsoft Word, and<br>that does a pretty good job for a first pass.<br><br>Human intervention at the next stage can then clean it up.<br><br>A piece of software called AVC (Any Video Converter) should allow you to<br>scrap the audio easily, as it will convert to any format from a URL. There<br>is a free and paid version, but again the free version works fine for this. [...]Alex Gowan-Webster2024-03-01T10:54:35+00:002024-03-01T10:54:35+00:00Re: Transcription software?https://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/wa-jisc.exe?A2=MCG;a8d8253.2403Hey Ed,<br><br>Not to be the AI super fan but this is probably a good job for that with<br>some human checking after.<br><br>I've known lots of people who use Otter<br>https://otter.ai/integrations/storage or a more technical but perhaps<br>cheaper is Open AI's whisper - https://openai.com/research/whisper.<br><br>I think it would be relatively easy to setup a pipeline where you scrape<br>the audio of the videos with something like -<br>https://ytdl-org.github.io/youtube-dl/index.html and then pipe it into<br>Otter or Whisper? [...]Sophie Dietrich2024-03-01T10:52:57+00:002024-03-01T10:52:57+00:00BOOK NOW: Towards a National Collection Webinarshttps://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/wa-jisc.exe?A2=MCG;a8bb1968.2403Dear colleagues (with apologies for cross-posting)<br><br>if you are interested in digital heritage, co-designing experiences for digital collections and the use of new digital methods and tools, don’t miss our Towards a National Collection (TaNC) Discovery Project Webinar Series 2024. We have some great speakers lined up and look forward to welcoming you in the coming weeks. These online events are free and open to everyone, and we encourage you to share this invitation with anyone who may be interested. [...]Ed Bankes2024-03-01T10:34:21+00:002024-03-01T10:34:21+00:00Transcription software?https://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/wa-jisc.exe?A2=MCG;e145e945.2403Hi all,<br><br>A colleague of mine needs to gather transcripts for a large number of videos on YouTube. These are videos on other channels, not our own (so we don’t have the srt files knocking around).<br><br>Can anyone recommend transcription software that she could use, or any other smart ways of gathering that text without having to meticulously watch along and type it all out? [...]