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Glenn writes: >I think employing someone with experience of impairment and who understands >the poltics of that experience is good. > >However, the main problem is that although an able-bodied person might not >fully understand and know what it is like to be disabled etc, many disabled >people will draw on contemporary understadnings of disability that will >exclude others whose identities are more ambigous - for example those with >chronic illness. In my own research this happened to a man who worked in a >disability organisation. I think its probably true that there are many parallels between disabled and non-disabled people in this respect. Nobody can be expected to understand everybody'd experience as if they were in everybody'd shoes. It is sometimes hard to step outside one's own position but there is a lot of very useful work on reflexivity within anthropology and sociology which is very helpful here (maybe John would like to come in here?). So when you write: > >In other words they need to fully understand their own position not only >alongisde able-bodied people (like able-bodied people need to alongisde >disabled people) but also other people who expereince impairment who may >want to claim a disabled identity but are not recognised within that term by >both dsiabled and able-bodied people. I think this is an important point because it looks at the EFFECTS of social barriers. But I also think its useful to look at different meanings of the term 'passing' and its relationship to inequality and the stuff on disability/impairment/chronic illness. It is in this area that theory can be useful rather than theory for its own sake. When Tony writes: >As a Deafie, I have been insulted once too often with the spectacle of >Hearing people who hold positions of power in deaf organisations and who 1) >Do not mix in the Deaf community, 2) do not have much to do with deafness >outside their jobs, 3) cannot even sign (this is the worse of the insults). >Of course, the justification is that they have the skills to do the job, >especially if it is an operational manager, a managerial, or fund-raising >positions; and they are paid obscene salaries for status and position. Oh how I agree, but to be absolutely honest with you, I seem to remember that Doug Alker said at a conference a few years ago that the worst abuses often come from those who claim to be our friends and those who 'know' a lot about Deaf issues whilst pretending that power is not important. How often have I heard the comment 'it's not the right time yet' when I ask hearing people why they don't make way for suitably qualified deaf people. That's a bit like organisations that say they are 'working towards equal opportunities' instead of 'we are an equal opportunities employer', especially when you look at how long some of them have been working towards it! One large charitable organisation springs to mind here. But going back to Glenn's point, I know a LOT of BSL using hearing people with the most awful attitudes towards Deaf people, and even worse attitudes towards deaf people, and I have met some wonderful hearing people .. absolutely right on in their understanding of the issues confronting deaf people across the board ... but with very limited signing skills simply because they find signing 'difficult' (and not for want of trying). I think this is legitimate because if you look at the 'success' of students learning foreign languages, there are always a fair number who don't succeed, and the Deaf community do have very high expectations. I think Deaf people also need to look seriously at how much the disability movement actually does support them and stop criticising disabled people for not signing, especially when for some signing will be impossible because of mobility or visual impairment, for example. And it would be useful if the Deaf community used a bit of the reflexivity I mentioned above in asking whether it is always the welcoming place for people who are not Deaf before it criticises those who don't involve themselves. Things are not always as black and white as they seem even if Deaf educators would like us to think they are. My own view is that we should value every little bit of support we can get, look for people who are good COMMUNICATORS as well as good signers (I mean how many people do you know who can speak clearly), and be very careful about those whom we think are our friends. Best wishes Mairian Mairian Corker Senior Research Fellow in Deaf and Disability Studies Department of Education Studies University of Central Lancashire Preston PR1 2HE Address for correspondence: 111 Balfour Road Highbury London N5 2HE U.K. Minicom/TTY +44 [0]171 359 8085 Fax +44 [0]870 0553967 Typetalk (voice) +44 [0]800 515152 (and ask for minicom/TTY number) ********* "To understand what I am doing, you need a third eye" ********* %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%