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Wise One wrote: > This just shows how willing and desperate people were to find patterns in > nature in those days. > The people of the age were looking for any way to explain life patterns > where as we have many of the answerHs on a plate I think this might be too modern a perspective. For patterns and explanations, the primary source would be the Scriptures. The idea that one can find the truth by observing nature is surely a modern one, rather than a medieval one. (And I'm really not sure how many of the answers we have on a plate. We seem to know something about how the universe ticks, but to a medieval mind this would all be mere frivolous detail. And that same mind would be sure about things that we find ourselves doubting.) Alasdair %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%