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On Tue, 17 Sep 1996, Dennis D. Martin wrote: > For these reasons, critique of the Cathar endura and critique of > Carthusian abstinence from meat even for the sick would seem to me to be > so different as to render comparisons, even of their critics, unhelpful. dear dennis you are right, once again. Who are these critics of the Carthusians, btw? cheers john arnold Centre for Medieval Studies Kings Manor Exhibition Square York YO1 2EP ENGLAND (01904) 433948 %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%