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I agree with these suggestions but would like to suggest, in addition to lobbying W3C, participation in the W3C initiative.

 

Angela

 

From: Pen Lister [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
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To: Sean Fullerton
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Subject: Re: [cc-openedu] Re: [OER-advocacy] Fwd: OER Metadata Standards for Discovery: Call for Collaborators

 

hi all

 

I was pleased to see the email from Wally regarding update being the most important issue here:

 

"The schema is fundamentally important but adoption is key.

Perhaps there are ways to make existing schema more adoption-friendly.

The fact that Joshua's link list has 7 different links to relevant schema seems like a clue."

 

My own view is that adoption is key, using one or other method with some level of interoperability between systems.

  • Lobbying W3C and other relevant bodies for adoption of one or two 'standardised' properties regarding pedagogical factors. These could be included in ALL RDF systems, building interoperability at core level
  • Using Open Graph is (probably) the most popular method across the web for 'general' webpage content - add standardised properties to this for pedagogical factors, and millions of pages become more discoverable as learning resources
  • Adequate smarter discovery of millions of webpages that may not qualify fully as 'OER' but nevertheless are really useful knowledge pages is essential, as far as I can see, to building a full knowledge web for all - incorporating informal as well as formal learning
  • I believe that at some level the development and then use of a standard API plugin in relation to faceted search functionality would permit any LMS to interact with search in more specific pedagogical ways, even permitting each learner to have their own access in this way, rather than only relying on Google's own (open) search behaviours

Id be interested to hear other thoughts on this.

 

Pen

 



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On Fri, Feb 1, 2019 at 12:27 AM Sean Fullerton <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

I will also echo Joshua and others' recommendation to look seriously at LRMI as the metadata standard for OER. Many good minds have contributed to that work over time. It would be better for practitioners to contribute to refining LRMI than trying to develop a new competing standard.

 

I also agree, however, that there is still much work to be done to improve OER discovery. As a school librarian, I am also interested in extending this to K-12, curating and tagging OERs to help teachers find good resources. 

 

 

--Sean Fullerton


School Librarian, Foss IB World School 253-571-7401
2112 S. Tyler Street

Tacoma, WA  98405

 

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We know how to learn independently and with others.

We learn with enthusiasm and sustain our love of learning 

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On Jan 31, 2019 11:08 AM, "Wally Grotophorst" <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

The schema is fundamentally important but adoption is key.
Perhaps there are ways to make existing schema more adoption-friendly.
The fact that Joshua's link list has 7 different links to relevant schema seems like a clue.

- Wally

Wally Grotophorst
Associate University Librarian
George Mason University
4400 University Drive
Fairfax, Virginia 22030
703 993-9005


Angela.Secrest wrote on 1/29/19 7:01 AM:



I second Joshua’s reminder and sentiment. Metadata is a part of the global conversation and is already recognized as a necessity for interoperability, discovery and sustainability. Some schemas are already highly developed – JISC, for example. This was one of my big takeaways from Open Repositories 2018.  

 

I’ll add to Joshua’s link list:

The W3C OER Schema Community: https://www.w3.org/community/oerschema/

http://oerschema.org/

 

Best,

Angela

 

Angela K. Secrest

District Director, Library Services

https://library.hccs.edu

 

 

 

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Sent: Monday, January 28, 2019 4:15 PM
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Subject: [cc-openedu] Re: [OER-advocacy] Fwd: OER Metadata Standards for Discovery: Call for Collaborators

 

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Cable et al,

 

I would like to remind the community of the work Creative Commons participated in some 10 years ago on this very topic. LRMI, the Learning Resource Metadata [1] initiative has been adopted by and integrated within Schema.org under "Creative Work" and includes things like learning resource type [3], intended audience, typical age range, and the very important "AlignmentObject" [3]. This work has more recently been harmonized into other specifications/metadata models such as CEDS [4], and the new IMS Global LTI Resource Search standard [5]. The LRMI taskforce is right now discussing specific vocabularies for resource types [6]. Lastly, and in support of these initiative, the IMS Global CASE [7] ("Competencies and Academic Standards Exchange") address how to create and exchange a learning standards or competency framework (e.g. what a student must learn and demonstrate to provide learning or master)

 

[4] https://ceds.ed.gov/element/000928/ (example for resource type elements)

 

I would highly recommend adding to this work and greatly discourage an attempt to reinvent this wheel. 

 

Best Regards,

 

Joshua Marks (IMS, LRMI, PCG, Curriki, etc.) 

 

On Mon, Jan 28, 2019 at 1:19 PM Cable Green <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

Greetings Open Education Friends:

I'm forwarding this call for collaboration from my OER Librarian friend and colleague, Heather White.

 

Warm regards,


Cable

 

Cable Green, PhD
Director of Open Education

Creative Commons

 

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From: Heather White <[log in to unmask]>
Date: Mon, Jan 28, 2019 at 9:27 AM
Subject: OER Metadata Standards for Discovery: Call for Collaborators

 

{please excuse cross postings & please share widely}

 

Finding OER remains a challenge for faculty and the librarians who support them and the reason is technical - as a community, we have not yet agreed on metadata standards for all of our various computer systems to use.

 

3 librarians in the Pacific Northwest are looking for technical services and systems librarians, and OER search engine administrators to come together and decide on metadata standards to improve the OER discovery process. While there's ongoing improvement in various OER repository search engines, librarians sending emails to listservs asking "anyone know of OER on this topic?" is still an all too common occurrence.

 

It’s time to apply cataloging and systems librarians’ expertise to bring the OER discovery process up to par with traditional library research tools. And we need to do this in collaboration with our non-library colleagues that are optimizing OER search engines.

Interested in helping? Want to learn more?

Click here to sign up for the OER Metadata Group!

Direct link: https://sites.google.com/view/oermetadatagroup/home

 

 

Heather White, MLS

Library Technical Services Coordinator

Mt Hood Community College

26000 SE Stark St., Gresham, OR 97030

503-491-7106

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