San Clemente in Rome traditionally had a spring (which has not helped in preserving the frescoes).   San Silvestro on the Tiber Island has a holy well within, now encapsulated with early eleventh-century relief, which many associate with the former Aesclepian sanctuary on the island.

--John Howe

 

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I wasn't told that when I had a guided tour round a few years ago (doesn't mean there isn't one). We walked around in the church area for quite a while and saw no stream (or trace of a stream going underground) that I noticed. It is very close to the beach.

 

At Saint-Antoine du Rocher, about 7 miles north of Tours, the tiny original church of the village has the apse ambulatory cut into the crag of rock, with a stream running down outside, but there was no matching legend that I could find (several English cathedrals with springs under the east end, of course: Wells, Winchester, Salisbury. And another, and one just outside the church at Bryn Glas/Pilleth in mid-Wales).

 

Jane

 

 

 

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Isn’t there an underground stream or well under les Saintes Maries de la Mer?

TGD

 

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Graham,

I'd be interested in anything you find on the second question. Nothing I have read on ministry to the mentally ill (canon law, Sentences commentaries or pastoral manuals) touches on seeking miraculous cures.

Tom Izbicki

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Dear All

Well, here's a couple of items for Shan and others. I'm preparing a pilgrimage conference paper for publication and I'd be delighted to add to my stock of cases in which

(a) a stream flows under a church or other religious building, feeding a pool in the building held to be efficacious in aiding cures

(b) mentally ill people seek a miraculous cure which involves being plunged into cold water (with or without the saying of mass)

Kind regards

Graham

 

On 11/02/2019 17:08, Madeleine Gray wrote:

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We have been a bit quiet lately, haven't we - I have a suspicion that more and more people are discussing things on Twitter (we've had a lengthy thread on reuse of medieval tomb carvings, for example).

I think, Shan, that what we discuss depends on what people raise - over to you!

Maddy

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University of South Wales
http://www.heritagetortoise.co.uk
http://twitter.com/heritagepilgrim
'Lle taw Duw nid doeth yngan' (St Fagan, allegedly)

 

On 11/02/2019 16:57, Richard Legault wrote:

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Right on, Shan.

 

I for one would love to see more on medieval science, technology and communication (both texts and artifacts). I'd also like to see more on Jewish and Moslem perspectives and influences, especially in places and times where co-operation predominated over conflict.

 

Richard J Legault

 

On Mon, Feb 11, 2019 at 10:01 AM Shan Morgain <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

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It is possible I have been on this list at a bad time when only a narrow range of topics has come up.

It doesn't appear to be about mediaeval religion and history. It's just about Christianity and very narrow areas of that. There is a wealth of political perspectives on the Church, its contests with the secular society, its treatment of common people, its heresies. None of that appears here.

 

 

Shan Morgain

Research site <www.mabinogistudy.com>

Incl. 'The Mabinogi Bibliography' annotated, searchable; c. 2,000 entries.

NLW nominated to the UK Web Archive
as 'an important part of Wales documentary heritage' (2017)

Adran y Cymraeg, Swansea University

, Wales.
Academia <https://swansea.academia.edu/ShanMorgain>

Resident 

Casnewydd/ Newport, Wales.

 

ASWWE (Association for Welsh Writing in English)
GENCAS (Centre for Research into Gender and Culture)
MEMO (Centre for Mediaeval and Early Modern Research)
RIAH (Research Institute for Arts and Humanities

 

SMF

(Society for Medieval Feminist Scholarship)

SURF (Swansea University Research Forum)

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