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Julian and Eileen We may ask the reverse question, if one is to start by a kingfisher-inspiration would the results lead to a nose cone similar to that implemented?? regardless of the truth of that myth or not. If it is true, and I do not know for sure, then that is a case for bio-inspiration. There are cases in aerodynamics when some wing structures were thought by aerodynamicists (e.g, swept back wing-tips and crescent shaped wings) independent from a biological-inspiration. It was discovered later on, that some of the shapes are the cause of efficient flight in some bird species. On Tue, Jan 8, 2019 at 1:56 PM Julian Vincent <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > My case is that he jumped on the biomimicry bandwagon. The research was > done in the mid 1990s. No birds were harmed in this study - or even > observed. It’s greenwash. > > > > On 8 Jan 2019, at 18:18, Eileen Stephens <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > > > > Julian, > > As I'm sure you know, the paper to which you refer is available in > English (probably not same exact version as this was published in...2011? > But I'm hoping close.) > https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/pdf/10.1260/0263-0923.30.1.1 > > > > The paper talks about tunnel exits. With the kingfisher, the author was > interested in tunnel entries. He is noted in endnote #9. > > > > Putting aside whether or not you buy the validity of the results of the > analysis/efforts, the man believes he engaged in biomimicry in developing > the design. > > > > Eileen > > > > ######################################################################## > > > > To unsubscribe from the BIOMIMETICS list, click the following link: > > https://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/webadmin?SUBED1=BIOMIMETICS&A=1 > > ######################################################################## > > To unsubscribe from the BIOMIMETICS list, click the following link: > https://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/webadmin?SUBED1=BIOMIMETICS&A=1 > -- Hisham A Abdel-Aal, PhD, Professor Laboratoire de Mécanique et Procédé de Fabrication (LMPF, EA4106) Arts et Métiers Paris Tech. Rue St Dominique, BP 508, 51006 Châlons-en-Champagne Cedex, FRANCE Téléphone : +33 (0)3 26 69 26 91 94 Fax : +33 (0)3 26 69 91 76 [log in to unmask] [log in to unmask] ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the BIOMIMETICS list, click the following link: https://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/webadmin?SUBED1=BIOMIMETICS&A=1