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I think you are being a little prissy ... there is nothing about
'professionalism' that stops a professional expressing his views when the
topic so onbviours imapcts on the 'profession.. And [in my view] this forum
has insufficient debate of significant matters. Perhaps you should learn to
live with it ...

ATB,

David.

On Fri, Dec 7, 2018 at 11:03 AM Paul Watkins <[log in to unmask]>
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> Dear Chris
>
> Whilst I fully respect your respect your right to hold these opinions I
> would suggest that this forum is not the place to be citing such
> politically loaded slogans as 'taking back control' and 'Independence,
> freedom'.
> As professionals we must surely try to find a common and positive response
> to Brexit whilst trying not to aggravate and provoke those who hold
> different political opinions from ourselves. It is a challenge but I am
> sure we can succeed!
>
> Paul Watkins
> ------------------------------
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> [log in to unmask]> on behalf of Chris Meads <
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> *Sent:* 07 December 2018 09:35
> *To:* [log in to unmask]
> *Subject:* Re: ESOL-RESEARCH Digest - 6 Dec 2018 (#2018-276)
>
> I am amazed to hear that so many people, from all walks of life, are
> convinced already that taking back control of our future and not leaving it
> to be decided by the rest of Europe, will be detrimental. "Independence,
> Freedom." Not even the government knows how it's going to work in practise
> yet.
>
> All the talk is negative, all the time, no optimism from anyone.
>
> If I may be allowed my own personal moan;
> It was never going to work in the first place!  Both the government and
> the opposition wanted to stay in the EU. It was left to politicians, who
> never wanted to leave, to negotiate leaving. We should have had a coalition
> of those who believed that leaving was the best policy, to negotiate. It is
> the easiest thing in the world to negotiate a bad deal, say it's this deal
> or nothing,  and hold the country to ransom by saying "if you don't accept
> this deal, we will have to remain in the EU. It happens all the time in all
> walks of life. Merry Christmas to one and all.
>
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> Topics of the day:
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>   1. The Impact of Brexit on EFL (2)
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> Date:    Thu, 6 Dec 2018 18:22:59 +0000
> From:    Shaun Gurmin <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: Re: The Impact of Brexit on EFL
>
> I am surprised by some of the comments in this discussion by those who
> seem to think they can predict the future: where did you study your
> teaching degree?
>
> I agree with Laila that it is best to wait and see. Things are almost
> certainly going to change, but it does not mean for the better or for the
> worse. Some things lost could result in some things gained.  ¡Que será,
> será!
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> Sent: Thursday, December 6, 2018 4:31:04 PM
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> Subject: Re: The Impact of Brexit on EFL
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> Nobody knows what's going to happen?!
> Perhaps it's best to read that Article 50 you keep hearing about. It's
> less than one side of A4...only 5 paragraphs.
>
> Paragraph 3 states the treaties shall cease to apply. People need to
> realise this means it will affect all industries including the EFL one.
>
> What we don't know is which direction the government will take us -
> without a WA or remain in the EU. What we do know is that leaving will be
> catastrophic to the UK, and to stay on topic, will affect the EFL industry
> too.
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> Wow! Very interesting..
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> Many thanks
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> Very interesting Tweet - a question I haven't seen asked:
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> Date:    Thu, 6 Dec 2018 21:48:39 +0000
> From:    lindy o'halloran <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: Re: The Impact of Brexit on EFL
>
> We have already noticed a big decline in the number of au pairs coming to
> Hertfordshire. Some of our EFL classes are under threat as a result as this
> is our main market (not overseas students). The few au pairs who are here
> at present say it is because of the uncertainty over what will actually
> happen in March – they all know people who didn’t want to commit to a year
> abroad in the UK if the rules were going to change halfway through, or if
> there was likely to be chaos.
> Anecdotally, many have gone to Ireland instead this year.
>
> Linda
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> Ireland also has an EFL industry which might benefit from Brexit.
> It would depend on the cost of the visa and length of application process.
> No need to worry just yet
> No one knows what’s going on or what will happen.
> As a French national, I’ve been in london for 29 years now, I’m waiting to
> see what will actually happen before worrying.
> It keeps on changing so let’s wait , continue to campaign, lobby and
> pressurise the government and hope for a positive outcome 🤞🏽
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