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All: For any one interested, here is the link to the presentation. https://www.dropbox.com/s/5ksopj9108ndhsv/Beer%2C%20Blood%20and%20Urine.pdf?dl=0 I would appreciate any comments (good or bad). Scott D. Scott MacKenzie, PhD, FASM Research Scientist - Metallurgy Houghton International, Inc. 610-666-4007 Office 484-467-0285 Cell ________________________________ From: Arch-Metals Group <[log in to unmask]> on behalf of [log in to unmask] <[log in to unmask]> Sent: Monday, December 3, 2018 11:18 AM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: Blood as quenchants for knives, etc Scott, While not the original poster, I would like a copy of the Paper/Presentation. Thanks, Terry From: Arch-Metals Group <[log in to unmask]> On Behalf Of Scott Mackenzie Sent: Monday, December 3, 2018 10:26 AM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: Blood as quenchants for knives, etc No I never did. I gave the paper at a conference, but never published it in a journal. I tried in a journal that is academic in nature, but was turned down because it didn't talk about nano, additive manufacturing, or what ever the current buzzwords are for funding of academics in the US. I have some time off - I might try again....Do you want a copy of the paper/presentation? D. Scott MacKenzie, PhD, FASM Research Scientist - Metallurgy Houghton International, Inc. 610-666-4007 Office 484-467-0285 Cell ________________________________ From: Arch-Metals Group <[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>> on behalf of Klaas Remmen <[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>> Sent: Monday, December 3, 2018 6:22 AM To: [log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Blood as quenchants for knives, etc Dear Scott Have you published the results of this research? I have been contacted with a question about this and remembered this conversation in the mailinglist. Thanks for your answer Klaas Remmen Op do 17 mrt. 2016 om 23:57 schreef Scott Mackenzie <[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>>: Once i get more references, I will publish. One thing I can say is that blood would be a terrible quenchant. It wouldn't get even high hardenability modern steels hard. Sent via the Samsung GALAXY SŪ 5, an AT&T 4G LTE smartphone -------- Original message -------- From: Daniel Tokar <[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>> Date: 3/17/2016 18:25 (GMT-05:00) To: [log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Blood as quenchants for knives, etc Hi: Yes! This will help a lot. My only addition would be seawater. It is not so fast as brine but I remember reading of a couple cases of its use. Thanks Daniel Tokar The Willow Forge -----Original Message----- From: Scott Mackenzie <[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>> To: ARCH-METALS <[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>> Sent: Thu, Mar 17, 2016 3:49 pm Subject: Blood as quenchants for knives, etc All: Hope everyone is well. I am looking for other references to the use of blood (animal or human) used as quenchants. I have a few - mostly an Icelandic legend, and a few references from 1100AD Europe. However I would really like more. I have recently done a series of cooling curves on bovine blood, urine, beer, and whole milk. As a control, tap water was used. Before i publish the results, I would like to find something more references. I think that this is the first time that anyone has measured cooling curves of blood, and determined the heat transfer coefficients as a function of part surface temperature. I will be happy to share the results. 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