yes - I see that but when I run lsqkab on your two coordinate sets lsqkab works OK. Here is the command file - i made a guess on what to match.. ******************************************************************* /tmp/shiftField_15_1_com.tmp ******************************************************************* title [No title given] fit res CA 11 to 100 - chain A match 8 to 97 - chain A fit res CA 101 to 130 - chain A match 100 to 129 - chain A output - xyz end ## This script run with the command ########## # /y/programs/xtal/64bit/ccp4-7.0/2016-08-23-1/ccp4-7.0/bin/lsqkab XYZIN2 "/y/people/ccp4/Downloads/Ecoli_HSS_rot.pdb" XYZIN1 "/y/people/ccp4/Downloads/Stau__urz_rot.pdb" XYZOUT "/y/people/ccp4/projects/shiftField/Ecoli_HSS_rot_lsq1.pdb" ################################################ And I attach the log file. Indeed the Ecoli one is now rotated by ~ 90 degrees and fits quite well.. There is a lot of unmatched stuff of course for the Ecoli one but that shouldnt prevent the fit.. Eleanor On 10 September 2018 at 12:53, Eleanor Dodson <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > Hmm - when I try to read Therm_tRNA into the CCP4I2 GUI it says > > > Cordinate file failed vaildation test! > Not sure what that test is but will ask around.. > e > > On 10 September 2018 at 12:15, Carter, Charlie <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > >> Eleanor, >> >> I’ll check into the tRNA TER cards. I have probably experienced >> difficulties with them before, so that may solve one of the problems, but >> not, I think, the other. >> >> Here are two pdb files from the pymol session. Ecoli_HSS_rot.pdb is the >> target structure; Stau_urz_rot.pdb is the result output for the input >> Stau_urz.pdb file. As you can see, even though the residues are, as far as >> I can tell correctly indicated, the rotated file is off by about 90 degrees. >> >> Many thanks for any help. >> >> Charlie >> >> >> >> On Sep 10, 2018, at 5:36 AM, Eleanor Dodson <[log in to unmask] >> <[log in to unmask]>> wrote: >> >> Charlie - I will try to check this, but cant read your pse file - can you >> find another format? >> >> Thanks Eleanor >> >> On 8 September 2018 at 12:28, Carter, Charlie <[log in to unmask]> wrote: >> >> Hi folks, >> >> I continue to use lsqkab because it offers unique flexibility and >> features appropriate to what I do. >> >> Currently, I’ve a project that requires such superposition and for that I >> created from the original pdb files a set of monomeric pdb files that have >> already been superposed by POSA. The POSA alignment used all the residues, >> and I want to orient only a subset that is structurally invariant, in order >> to identify possible interdomain motions. >> >> There are ten such files; eight appear to work properly and have aligned. >> The other two give one or another of two pathologies. The first appears >> simply to get confused and output a rotated coordinate file that appears to >> be ~90 degrees off, despite the fact that the residue numbering is correct >> (see attached .pse file in which three _Urz coordinate sets are >> illustrated, which were superimposed on Ecoli_Urz. The Ttherm_H file is >> correctly rotated; the Stau_LF file is not.). >> >> I decided to try to rotate the two files into an intermediate orientation >> that gave a satisfactory result, i.e. Ttherm_H. The first attempt at this >> involved a second problematic file, Ttherm_tRNA. LSQKSB gave the following >> error message, which instructs me to contact the developers. The >> problematic pdb file, Ttherm_tRNA.pdb, is also attached. >> >> >> * *** RWBROOK error: point code unit function* >> * *** 1 -102 2 MMDB_F_Atom* >> * *** file : Ttherm_tRNA_rot.pdb* >> * *** reason : internal error #2 -- report to developer* >> * *** Execution stopped.* >> >> I should note that I am still using the following version of the software: >> >> source /usr/local/bin/ccp4-7.0/include/ccp4.setup >> >> The commands in my script are: >> >> #source /usr/local/bin/ccp4-7.0/include/ccp4.setup >> lsqkab XYZINM $1 XYZINF $2 XYZOUT $1_rot.pdb << END-lsqkab >> FIT RESIDUE MAIN 8 TO 82 >> MATCH 10 to 84 >> FIT RESIDUE MAIN 83 TO 111 >> MATCH 85 to 113 >> FIT RESIDUE MAIN 122 TO 129 >> MATCH 124 to 131 >> OUTPUT XYZ >> END >> END-lsqkab >> >> Many thanks in advance for any help. >> >> >> >> >> >> > ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the CCP4BB list, click the following link: https://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/webadmin?SUBED1=CCP4BB&A=1