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So e.g. I was just drawing an analogy between The Waste Land and the internet, their "echo chambers": Eliot's wasteland amounts to just the tonal play of conversation of people without moral authority. an effect achieved via a network of literary allusions about redemption that retain their absence from events in the poem (the typist is not a lovely woman). The internet is a lot of people talking at once and nothing else, no 'poetry' after conceptual poetry, and no authority on what anything means. Those two are analogous if you map "the past" onto 'authority on meaning' and poetry onto redemption. I'm suddenly not sure if I can be understood! Luke ######################################################################## To unsubscribe from the BRITISH-IRISH-POETS list, click the following link: https://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/webadmin?SUBED1=BRITISH-IRISH-POETS&A=1