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Is there anything you read that you look at and think "yes" that is me, myself, as a genius? Luke On Tue, 4 Sep 2018 at 19:28, David Bircumshaw <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > Or defective detective? > > On Tue, 4 Sep 2018, 5:42 pm Luke, <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > >> We do seem to know some stuff; mostly the rest is decorative? >> >> Luke >> >> On Tue, 4 Sep 2018 at 17:32, David Bircumshaw <[log in to unmask]> >> wrote: >> >>> I'm a covert realist myself :) >>> >>> On Tue, 4 Sep 2018, 3:33 pm Luke, <[log in to unmask]> wrote: >>> >>>> > words to that effect >>>> >>>> They work for me. So not rhetorical then... >>>> >>>> Luke >>>> >>>> On Tue, 4 Sep 2018 at 15:31, David Bircumshaw <[log in to unmask]> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Because the social world of power that I experience is complex, though >>>>> brutal in its simplicity; incoherent, though authoritarian; inimical to >>>>> psychological need though ready to gratify base drives. >>>>> >>>>> Or words to that effect. >>>>> >>>>> Dave >>>>> >>>>> On 4 September 2018 at 15:19, Luke <[log in to unmask]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> So why are you using surrealist techniques? For complexity, >>>>>> incoherence, psychological needs? >>>>>> >>>>>> Luke >>>>>> >>>>>> On Tue, 4 Sep 2018 at 14:02, David Bircumshaw <[log in to unmask]> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> I've had extensive dealings with Yodel and its complaints service >>>>>>> lately and would suggest that it covers both post-surrealism and devices >>>>>>> meaningfully combining into incoherence very nicely indeedy-deed. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Dave >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 4 September 2018 at 11:56, Luke <[log in to unmask]> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Ok so what I'm working with is: *devices meaningfully combining >>>>>>>> into incoherence*. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> A very good example of that meaningfulness would be any parody of >>>>>>>> closure... but it works with e.g. Imagism, I think, too; a collage that >>>>>>>> makes no literal sense but is still meaningful >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Luke >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Tue, 4 Sep 2018 at 11:29, Luke <[log in to unmask]> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> sounds like a good thing! >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Luke >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Tue, 4 Sep 2018 at 10:38, Tim Allen < >>>>>>>>> [log in to unmask]> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I tend to describe myself in general as a post-surrealist, or at >>>>>>>>>> least I prefer that to some other things I get called - the problem is it >>>>>>>>>> is a very wide ranging 'post' >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On 4 Sep 2018, at 10:09, Luke wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Sorry, a little drunk there... >>>>>>>>>> I'm trying to find a starting point from which to say a poem >>>>>>>>>> works, rather than does something I like or feel I should. 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