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Alan,
As far as I understand, it is intended to be exactly what we mean - our everyday meaning - on beauty about facades, buildings, gardens, cities or artifacts. This is what Alexander intends to pursue in The Nature of Order and in his entire career: https://www.firstthings.com/article/2016/02/making-the-garden
Herewith an excerpt from his overview paper on The Nature of order for a scientific audience. In this paper and the above cites one, he harshly criticized how architecture, over the past 50-100 years, has been severely damaged by modernism, post-modernism,
deconstructionism, and a host of other -isms.
[log in to unmask]">Ok that must be a bit like physicists using words like ‘charm’ and ‘beauty’ to mean something quite specific about quarks, and never intended to be thought to be related to their everyday meaning. I had not heard understood this is what Alexander was doing. That is fine, just slightly confusing. Alan Sent from my iPhoneOn 22 Jul 2018, at 18:12, Bin Jiang <[log in to unmask]> wrote: Alexander's configuration theory is NOT a social theory, but part of complexity theory, which aims not only for understanding complexity, but also for making and remaking complex or living structures: http://www.katarxis3.com/SCIENTIFIC%20INTRODUCTION.pdf More beautiful or better is in terms of not only how it looks, but also how it works. This is the uniqueness of Alexander's theory, based on which a new Master program was established: https://buildingbeauty.org/ Thanks and cheers. BinOn 7/22/2018 6:58 PM, Penn, Alan wrote: I really worry about any social theory that says some artefact is objectively ‘better’ or ‘more beautiful’ than another. ‘Better‘ for what? ‘More beautiful’ in whose eyes? I am happy that something may hold more information or may be simpler, or more complex, more or less intelligible or interesting, but ‘better’ ? This use of words casts doubt on the theory itself and the theorist. Alan Sent from my iPhoneOn 22 Jul 2018, at 17:00, Bin Jiang <[log in to unmask]> wrote: Dear all, As far as I see, one of the theory's limits is that it is unable to say which facade is objectively better than another, or alternatively, which facade has a higher degree of goodness objectively. Christopher Alexander developed a configurational theory - in The Nature of Order - that is based on a mathematically defined wholeness. It is able to objectively judge which facade is better than another, or which facade is more life, or more beautiful, or more whole than another. We are currently running a project - namely FACADE - with which we are testing with human subjects, which of two facades (their pictures actually) has a higher degree of goodness. This is the so called the mirror-of-the-self experiment, developed by Alexander. In this project, we will also compute the degree of goodness for many pairs of facades, in order to compare to the results of the mirror of the self experiment. The computational experiment is based on the following papers: https://www.researchgate.net/publication/312332540_Geographic_Space_as_a_Living_Structure_for_Predicting_Human_Activities_Using_Big_Data https://www.researchgate.net/publication/305638074_A_Topological_Representation_for_Taking_Cities_as_a_Coherent_Whole I shall keep you updated with the progress of this FACADE project. Thanks and cheers. BinOn 7/22/2018 3:23 PM, Psarra, Sophia wrote: Dear all Bill's work that Alan and Ruth refer to has been published in a thematic issue of JOSS, which was dedicated to space syntax and design (annotated by the editor's comments). Bill elaborates on some of the ideas that Alan mentions in this paper, using analysis of facades. I attach the paper here. This issue (Vol. 2 no 2 Dec. 2011) contains other interesting papers in the field of space syntax, formal analysis and design. http://joss.bartlett.ucl.ac.uk/journal/index.php/joss/issue/view/4 Best Sophia SOPHIA PSARRA DipArch, MSc, PhD The Bartlett School of Architecture Faculty of the Built Environment University College London (UCL) 22 Gordon Street London, WC1H 0QB United Kingdom Email: [log in to unmask] Web: https://www.ucl.ac.uk/bartlett/architecture/dr-sophia-psarra Blog: https://con-figurations.com/ Twitter: https://twitter.com/SophiaPsarra Vimeo: https://vimeo.com/bartlettarchucl The Venice Variations (2018), London: UCL Press (free PDF download) http://discovery.ucl.ac.uk/10047544/1/The-Venice-Variations.pdf Architecture and Narrative (2009), London: Routledge http://www.routledge.com/books/details/9780415343763/ On 22/07/2018, 12:27, "[log in to unmask] on behalf of Ruth Dalton" <[log in to unmask] on behalf of [log in to unmask]> wrote: I have a copy of the paper Alan, but it’s the ‘lost’ chapter of space is the machine that never made it into the final publication and so have never been in the public realm! I could scan it with bill’s permission. Regards Ruth ___________________________ Professor Ruth Conroy Dalton Sent from my iPhone > On 22 Jul 2018, at 12:23, Penn, Alan <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > > Thanks Reem! > clearly, on re-reading I have conflated the paper and some of Bill’s lectures on the subject that developed on from this - glueing and binding and the sociological argument… > Alan > >> On 22 Jul 2018, at 12:05, Reem Zako <[log in to unmask]> wrote: >> >> I have a digital copy of "Quite unlike the pleasures of scratching” and attaching it, but not quite sure of publication year thus the 19xx >> >> Reem >> >> ######################################################################## >> >> To unsubscribe from the SPACESYNTAX list, click the following link: >> https://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/webadmin?SUBED1=SPACESYNTAX&A=1 >> >> >>> On 22 Jul 2018, at 11:46, Penn, Alan <[log in to unmask]> wrote: >>> >>> Two thoughts: >>> >>> Bill wrote a paper about this under the title “Quite unlike the pleasures of scratching”, but for the life of me I cant see where it is and don’t have a copy. It applies very fundamental configurational analysis to different things one can do with a facade. Essentially, ‘gluing’ or ‘binding’. The former where an element is used to create a logical relationship between other elements, as in for example bilateral symmetry around a single central axis, elaborated and made more unlikely (therefore intentional) by increased detail. The latter where a single element is used to group together a number of similar sub elements - the cornice for example above repeated elements of fenestration. Bill’s main insight here was that these kinds of configurational possibility seem to map onto the social structures of organisations and institutions, and so give information about the likely social structures of those that built them. A dominant logical elaboration of a single axis indicating a hierarchical social structure of a single ideology; a repetition of similar units unified by a single facade plain or a unifying cornice line suggesting a mechanical solidarity. The cathedral and the monastery were examples. There was much more - it was an elegant argument. >>> >>> Second, Juval Portugali’s work on this issue. A whole information based theory. >>> >>> Alan >>> >>> >>> >>>> On 22 Jul 2018, at 10:23, Armir Ferati <[log in to unmask]> wrote: >>>> >>>> Dear all, >>>> >>>> Anything on Facade analysis (configurational approach)? >>>> >>>> >>>> To unsubscribe from the SPACESYNTAX list, click the following link: >>>> https://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/webadmin?SUBED1=SPACESYNTAX&A=1 >>>> >>> >>> >>> ######################################################################## >>> >>> To unsubscribe from the SPACESYNTAX list, click the following link: >>> https://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/webadmin?SUBED1=SPACESYNTAX&A=1 >> >> >> ######################################################################## >> >> To unsubscribe from the SPACESYNTAX list, click the following link: >> https://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/webadmin?SUBED1=SPACESYNTAX&A=1 >> <19xx_Hillier_PleasureScratching.pdf> > > > ######################################################################## > > To unsubscribe from the SPACESYNTAX list, click the following link: > https://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/webadmin?SUBED1=SPACESYNTAX&A=1 This message is intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential and/or legally privileged information. 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