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Chana, excuse me popping up again but things are occurring to me randomly. Enoch and Elijah are associated with Christ via their ascensions, but also come to be associated with Christ's second coming and the last judgement. This is especially a feature of Joachimist thought from the 12th century on; I'm not sure about any historical antecedents. Marjorie Reeves has written extensively on Joachimism:

    Marjorie Reeves, The Influence of Prophecy in the Later Middle Ages: A Study in Joachimism (Oxford: Clarendon Press, 1969).
    Harold Lee, Marjorie Reeves, and Giulio Silano, Western Mediterranean Prophecy: The School of Joachim of Fiore and the Fourteenth-Century Breviloquium, Studies and Texts, vol. 88 (Toronto: Pontifical Institute of Mediaeval Studies, 1989).
    Ann Williams, ed., Prophecy and Millenarianism: Essays in Honour of Marjorie Reeves (Harlow, Essex: Longman, 1980).
    Marjorie E. Reeves, “Joachimist Expectations in the Order of Augustinian Hermits,” Recherches de Théologie Ancienne et Médiévale 25 (1958): 111–14.

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On 31 July 2018 at 17:36, Paul Chandler <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

On 31 July 2018 at 03:26, Laura Jacobus <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
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The Black Country Enoch and Eli jokes are fascinating!  I wonder if they feature in any surviving mystery play texts? (Sorry to wander off topic)

See R.K. Emmerson, "'Nowe ys  common this  daye': Enoch  and Elias, Antichrist  and  the  Structure  of  the Chester Cycle", in Homo, memento finis: The Iconography of Just Judgement in Medieval  Art and Drama, Kalamazoo, Michigan, 1985, 89-120. -- Paul


On 30 July 2018 at 16:20, BRIGGS JOHN <0000149b9c30fb63-dmarc-reques[log in to unmask]> wrote:
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Enoch and Eli [Aynuk and Ayli] are two characters in standard present-day Black Country jokes - the pairing probably deriving from that in medieval pictorial representations or in processions.

John Briggs






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