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Is there any chance that the 'pear wine' could be a corrupted reference to vins pères, a contraction of vins des pères and French  for 'wine of the fathers' or wine of the monks?'

Richard J Legault

On Wed, Jul 25, 2018 at 4:53 PM, Olson, Linda <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
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Dear Colleagues,
     I've run across a saint's life in which one evidence of holiness was that the saint drank wine sparingly, and then only pear wine.  Does anyone know why pear wine was seen this way?  Thanks for your help, as always.
Linda




Linda S. Olson, Ph.D., Emerita
Department of World Languages & Literatures
Southern Connecticut State University
501 Crescent St.    New Haven, CT    06515


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medieval-religion: Scholarly discussions of medieval religion and culture I think bells now are heavier than they used to be; hence the need for wheels, as well as for both hands on one rope.

Jane

On 25 July 2018 15:59:49 BST, Anne Willis <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
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Lovely. Thanks very much.

Curious how medieval ringers seem almost always to be chiming two bells at
once. There are people nowadays who can ring two bells full circle
together, but it's not common.

Anne



A) More bell ringers with ropes

1: Belton (Lincs), panel of the seemingly later C12 vessel of the font
(restored, 1849) in the parish church of Sts Peter and Paul:
http://www.bellatrovata.com/2014/Lincolnshire/Belton/Bellringer-May14-P0899s
AR.jpg

2: New York, Morgan Library, MS M.183 (psalter - hours; from Liège; ca.
1280s), fol. 252v, at left in the initial D:
http://ica.themorgan.org/manuscript/page/276/77271
https://www.pinterest.co.uk/pin/144889312989940641/

3: London, BL, ms Yates Thompson 11 (formerly Additional 39843; French
origin; ca. 1290), fols. 2-7 ("La Sainte Abbaye"), fol. 6v:
http://www.bl.uk/catalogues/illuminatedmanuscripts/ILLUMINBig.ASP?size=big&I
llID=45151
This illumination described very summarily at:
https://www.bl.uk/catalogues/illuminatedmanuscripts/ILLUMIN.ASP?Size=mid&Ill
ID=45151
and rather more fully in Aden Kumler, _Translating Truth_ (Yale U.P., 2011),
pp. 217-222.

4: New Haven, CT, Beinecke Rare Book and Manuscript Library, Beinecke MS
404 ("Rothschild Canticles"; Flemish or Rhineland origin; ca. 1300), fol.
53r:
https://brbl-media.library.yale.edu/images/1011589_quarter.jpg

5: Paris, BnF, ms. Français 13342 (mixed theological content; English
origin; ca. 1301-1325), fol. 46v-47r, at top center:
https://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/btv1b105094193/f98.item.zoom

6: Paris, BnF, ms. Français 122 (Walter Map, Le Roman de Lancelot du Lac;
from Hainaut; 1344), fol. 63r:
https://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/btv1b10533299h/f135.item.zoom
http://beta.biblissima.fr/fr/ark:/43093/ifdatae94113ec73ed7377d5bae680021634
2afa34bb1b

7: Paris, BnF, ms. Latin 960 (Pontificale romanum; Italian origin; C14),
fol. 4r:
https://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/btv1b9066906d/f7.item.zoom
http://beta.biblissima.fr/fr/ark:/43093/ifdata9805ef4433500ce5312bae4d9192b7
b457591788

8: Paris, BnF, ms. Nouvelle Acquisition Latine 3093 ("Très belles Heures de
Notre-Dame"; French origin, late C14 - early C15), fol. 173r, at bottom
right:
https://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/btv1b84496839/f191.item.zoom

9: Heidelberg, Universitätsbibliothek, Cod. Pal. germ. 144 (Elsässische
Legenda Aurea; from Strassburg / Strasbourg; 1419), fol. 96v:
https://digi.ub.uni-heidelberg.de/diglit/cpg144/0206/image

10: Nürnberg, Stadtbibliothek, Cod. Amb. 317.2° (Hausbuch der Mendelschen
Zwölfbrüderstiftung, Bd. 1; ca. 1425), fol. 33r:
https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Datei:Mendel_I_033_r.jpg

11: Mölln (Schleswig-Holstein), St. Nikolaikirche, prob. late C15 fresco
(man ringing (testing?) bells whilst playing a pan pipe or sipping from a
cup):
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-eHsk2WhxYiw/T6BMcQnYLzI/AAAAAAAAFVY/Xdn4lwm-bDU/s1
600/ZIMG_H686.jpg


B) More handbell ringers

1: Paris, BnF, ms. Latin 1118 (troper and proser for the Use of Auch; betw.
990 and 1010), fol. 114r:
https://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/btv1b8432314k/f237.item

2: Cambridge, Corpus Christi College, Parker Library MS 16 (Matthaei Paris
Chronica Maiora II; English origin; betw. 1235 and 1259), fol. 151v (single
bell rung by the mahout of Freddy II's Cremona elephant):
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cremona_elephant#/media/File:Matthew_Paris_Ele
phant_from_Parker_MS_16_fol_151v.jpg

3: Ripoll, abbey church of Santa María, 2d from left in this panel of its
mid-thirteenth-century portal:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/martin-m-miles/7890266724/
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/d9/Ripoll-Mois%C3%A9s.jpg

4: Oxford, Bodleian Library, MS Douce 6 (psalter; Flemish origin; ca.
1320-1330), fol. 10r:
http://bodley30.bodley.ox.ac.uk:8180/luna/servlet/detail/ODLodl~1~1~43486~10
8632:Psalter-
Detail views:
http://bodley30.bodley.ox.ac.uk:8180/luna/servlet/detail/ODLodl~1~1~43487~10
8633:Psalter-
https://www.pinterest.com/pin/563442603371073447/
https://www.flickr.com/photos/tonyynot/5381420903/in/photolist-9nN2f4-ccanrQ
-ctmaHJ-a65SC9-9cxbX2-9sh1CA-9sh1Ys-byEhm2-ccaodY-atYjZX-9Xoi5r-91UQcn-atYkD
n-8KwqLx-csbudE/

5: London, British Library Add. MS 42130 ("Luttrell Psalter"; English
origin; ca. 1325-1340), fol. 43r, bas de page:
http://www.bl.uk/manuscripts/Viewer.aspx?ref=add_ms_42130_f043r
http://www.bl.uk/manuscripts/Viewer.aspx?ref=add_ms_42130_fs001ar
Detail view:
https://twitter.com/DamienKempf/status/504605079685836800/photo/1

6: Pamplona, Museo de Navarra, detail of Juan Oliver's Passion fresco (ca.
1335) from the refectory of the cathedral of Pamplona:
http://www.jotamartinez.com/instrumentarium%20web%202017/icono%20medievales%
20para%20web/CAMPANAS%20MANO%20NAVARRA.jpg

7 a-d: Oxford, Bodleian Library, MS. Bodl. 264 (The Romance of Alexander in
French verse; 1338-1344; French origin with two sections added in England):
a: fol. 110r (bas de page at far left):
http://bodley30.bodley.ox.ac.uk:8180/luna/servlet/detail/ODLodl~24~24~141762
~145050
https://www.pinterest.com/pin/324048135663851338/
AND
b: fol. 120v (bas de page; 3d minstrel from left):
bodley30.bodley.ox.ac.uk:8180/luna/servlet/detail/ODLodl~24~24~141930~145073
Detail view:
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/f3/05/a1/f305a1a2aeab8ffcc9e7fa3e21a8d3e0.jpg
AND
c: fol. 173r (bas de page; 2d from left)
http://bodley30.bodley.ox.ac.uk:8180/luna/servlet/detail/ODLodl~24~24~142770
~145188
Detail view:
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/40/c7/c7/40c7c7ff8bdb8add55106d078886b1dd.jpg
AND
d: fol. 158r (at top; 3d from left):
http://bodley30.bodley.ox.ac.uk:8180/luna/servlet/detail/ODLodl~24~24~142530
~145154
Detail view:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/tonyynot/4385000219/in/photostream/

8: Nürnberg, Stadtbibliothek, Cod. Amb. 317.2° (Hausbuch der Mendelschen
Zwölfbrüderstiftung, Bd. 1; 1516), fol. 133r:
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Mendel_I_133_r.jpg

Best,
John Dillon


From: medieval-religion - Scholarly discussions of medieval religious
culture <[log in to unmask]AC.UK> on behalf of Gordon Plumb
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Sent: Monday, July 16, 2018 11:29:10 AM
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Subject: Re: [M-R] Pictures of medieval ringing

medieval-religion: Scholarly discussions of medieval religion and culture An
image of bells in a frame in medieval glass at Landbeach, Cambridgeshire can
be seen here:

https://www.flickr.com/photos/22274117@N08/21687944851

gordon Plumb


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I’m not sure if anyone has mentioned the pictures of bell ringers on English
fonts, if not, you can check out the two images on the fonts at:

1) A man is ringing two bells on the font at Belton nr. Grantham
(Lincs.), Parish Church of Saint Paul and Saint Peter, Late Norman?
[re-carved?]. Notes: Tyrrell-Green (1928) remarks that the image of the
bell-ringer on this font alludes to the name of the town [BELTON: bell town]
and states that the fonts at Belton, Hereford Cathedral, Micheldean
(Gloucs.) and Rendcombe (Gloucs.) were "evidently produced by the same hand,
or by the same school of workmen".

2) A male figure ringing two bells by their ropes, Hutton Cranswick /
Cranzvic & Hotone [Domesday] / Cranzvic & Hottune [Domesday] [now in the
Yorkshire Museum, York], Norman (recycled font?),



Cheers, Harriet



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