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Many thanks that is really helpful Alison.


On Fri, May 4, 2018 at 10:59 AM, Macfarlane, Alison <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

I have just had a cursory look, given that the two volumes of Effective care in pregnancy and childbirth were sitting near me and couldn’t find anything on the degree of tearing, although it may be that a more thorough look would reveal more. On page 1137 its says that ‘The most common cause of perineal damage is episiotomy’. There are quite a few references to Jenny Sleep’s West Berkshire Perineal Management Trial BMJ 1984; 289: 587-590 and the three year follow-up BMJ 1987; 295: 749-751. So perhaps there is something there.

 

Alison Macfarlane

 

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Subject: Re: First, second and third degree tears

 

Hi Ellie

Is there any information informing Jennifer Sleep’s original work on liberal v restricted use of epis. Also, the big volumes of Enkin, Kirse and Chalmers evidence based practice. 

Regards

Sue

 

Sue Way

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On 4 May 2018, at 10:03, Ellie Jenkins <0000109fa4986ddc-dmarc-[log in to unmask]> wrote:

Thank you Claudia.  I asked someone who worked in the 80's but she said she has only ever known these descriptors.  I will continue my search.

 

On Fri, May 4, 2018 at 9:13 AM, claudia Oblasser <00000e45e4964023-dmarc-[log in to unmask]> wrote:

I don't know but find it a very interesting question!

I would first contact retired professors to ask if they learned this classification in their long ago education. And maybe they have a hint to further back in history ...

Before screening historical professional books.

Best wishes
Claudia

 

 

 

 

 

Am Freitag, 4. Mai 2018, 09:45:39 MESZ hat Ellie Jenkins <0000109fa4986ddc-dmarc-[log in to unmask]> Folgendes geschrieben:

 

 

Hello

 

Does anyone know the original research or published location of the professional descriptions of first, second and third degree perineal tears? or the approximate time that these descriptors first started to be used.

 

Many thanks

 

Elinor Jenkins

Research midwife


 

 

 



 

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