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Meg, I suppose I always say the same thing, but I think a useful first step is usually to check the French mega-encyclopedias, where there will often be a long and thorough historical treatment, even if dated and needing to be supplemented by more modern work. The great advantage is that they aim at a systematic coverage, whereas much modern scholarship is very specialised and therefore fragmentary (with exceptions, of course). 

For liturgical blessings I would check first Dictionnaire d'archéologie chrétienne et de liturgie (30 vols in 15, 1903-53). It can be supplemented with the Brepols Dictionnaire encyclopédique de la liturgie (2003), where there is an article by Manilio Sodi on "Bénédiction", or the various one-volume dictionaries like The New Westminster Dictionary of Liturgy and Worship (1986), but they are rarely given to intricate historical detail like the old works. In German there may be something substantial (I have not checked) in Theologische Realenzyklopädie (1976-  ), or the older Reallexikon für Antike und Christentum (1950-  ). 

A. Franz, Die kirklichen Benediktionen im Mittelalter (2 vols, 1909) is perhaps the "weighty German tome" you mention (1500+ pages), to be loved or feared, depending. I'm not sure of its coverage of the Greek tradition. -- Paul



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Thanks to all who responded to my earlier request regarding Holy Water and Chrism. My students were most interested in the detailed exorcism of the water - and the salt! However a Greek Orthodox friend raised the issue of how far back this goes (apparently it is not done today). I´m guessing that probably it is there in the early church (I have found Greek examples of other things she has scoffed at), but my Greek is pretty much non-existent. Does anyone on the list know of Greek rituals for preparing holy water and/or baptismal water that are accessible in English (or German, or French. I could probably plow my way through Greek with a translation on hand.) I´m not just interested in water, though, and am wondering if there is perhaps a weighty 19th century German tome on the history of liturgical blessings? Of course I´d be delighted to learn of something more recent, and in English, but the Germans seem to have done a lot of the spadework that has not yet been superceded.

Meg



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Chrism was consecrated by the bishop at the chrism mass on Holy Thursday & distributed to the parishes. You should look at Powicke & Cheney, Councils and Synods, vol. 2 for regulations concerning this.


Regulations for the safe keeping of the Eucharist also are concerned with the keeping of chrism. Some of the relevant regulations are translated from Lynwoode's Provinciale in in Lyndwood’s Provinciale…., ed. J. V. Bullard and H. Chalmer Bell (London: Faith Press, 1929), esp. pp. 12-13 Archbishop Pecham's Cum sacri.


Tom Izbicki



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As I recall, Miri Rubin's Medieval Christianity in Practice has a chapter or two on baptism and I think a discussion of godparent roles. (the book is a sourcebook with primary sources and couple page scholarly discussion following each selection)



Jola.

Dr. Jolanta N. Komornicka
Corcoran Dept. of History
University of Virginia

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You can find a translation of the Sarum Baptismal Rite in E C Whitaker, "Documents of the Baptismal Liturgy", Third edition edited by Maxwell E Johnson, London, SPCK, 2003, chapter 14, including the godmothers being enjoined
to teach the child the Lord's Prayer, the Hail Mary and the Creed.

Gordon Plumb



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Greetings all,

Can anyone tell me what kind of ritual(s) are used to create / bless Holy Water in medieval times? What about chrism? If anyone knows of an English translation of a medieval baptism ritual (or instructions, includuding advice to godparents and the like) please let me know!
Meg

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