medieval-religion: Scholarly discussions of medieval religion and culture The current RC expression is also "stole fee", but in Latin there was "altaragium", Englished as "altarage". Here are the references from DLMBS and Du Cange via Logeion: http://logeion.uchicago.edu/index.html#altaragium and here a reference to "altarage" in Godolphin's [Anglican] *Repertorium Canonicum* (London, 1687): http://bit.ly/29BUgdk -- Paul On 16 July 2016 at 09:14, Stephen Morris < [log in to unmask]> wrote: > medieval-religion: Scholarly discussions of medieval religion and culture > I can tell you that among us Orthodox it is customary for a priest to > receive a "stole fee" anytime he dons his priestly stole (epitrachilion): > baptism, funeral, wedding, house blessing, etc. In the past, this practice > was even more extensive, including confession, visitation of the sick, > unction/last rites as well. > > Also, surplice "fee" might be a bit strong. Although baptism was free it > might have been customary to nevertheless give the priest a small gift. > > #1 New Release in Gay & Lesbian Studies > www.whenbrothersdwellinunity.com > www.stephenmorrisauthor.com > > > On Jul 15, 2016, at 3:35 PM, Ms B M Cook < > [log in to unmask] > <[log in to unmask]>> wrote: > > medieval-religion: Scholarly discussions of medieval religion and culture > > Dear All, > > This is a bit off topic, but its roots will be in the MA. > > I came across the phrase "surplice fees" in an 18th C source (Parson > Woodforde's Diary) and asked a priest friend if I was right to think that > these were fees paid for the occasional office: baptisms, churchings, > weddings, burials. Their reply was that it must refer to weddings & burials > only since baptisms (and possibly churchings) were free - but then added > that this may have only been true since the coming of state registration of > birth since 1832. Before then baptism acted as a birth registration. > > Can anyone throw light on this ? Were baptisms performed for free in (any > part of ) the Middle Ages ? Post Reformation ? Wikipedia lists "baptisms, > weddings and burials" as generating surplice fees but we all know how > accurate THAT is. And it does not mention churchings. > > In anticipation, > > Brenda > > > Brenda M. Cook > Independent Scholar > ********************************************************************** > To join the list, send the message: subscribe medieval-religion YOUR NAME > to: [log in to unmask] > To send a message to the list, address it to: > [log in to unmask] > To leave the list, send the message: unsubscribe medieval-religion > to: [log in to unmask] > In order to report problems or to contact the list's owners, write to: > [log in to unmask] > For further information, visit our web site: > http://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/medieval-religion > > ********************************************************************** To > join the list, send the message: subscribe medieval-religion YOUR NAME to: > [log in to unmask] To send a message to the list, address it to: > [log in to unmask] To leave the list, send the message: > unsubscribe medieval-religion to: [log in to unmask] In order to > report problems or to contact the list's owners, write to: > [log in to unmask] For further information, visit > our web site: http://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/medieval-religion > -- Paul Chandler, O.Carm. Holy Spirit Seminary | PO Box 18 (487 Earnshaw Road) | Banyo Qld 4014 | Australia office: (07) 3267 4804 | mobile: 044 882 4996 [log in to unmask] ********************************************************************** To join the list, send the message: subscribe medieval-religion YOUR NAME to: [log in to unmask] To send a message to the list, address it to: [log in to unmask] To leave the list, send the message: unsubscribe medieval-religion to: [log in to unmask] In order to report problems or to contact the list's owners, write to: [log in to unmask] For further information, visit our web site: http://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/medieval-religion