Dave I think the example you use, with item types and dates added either end and with a little tightening, would work perfectly and be readily-found by the big search engines Reports and papers re high-frequency vibration generation mechanisms in resiliently-packaged systems, 1994-2008 I also believe that Google etc look beyond the title wherever they are able so whilst I see the value of a paragraph summary titles of an entire 'thing' if collections are locked from web search beyond the title, I would have though collection level entries would be made visible and therefore the problem largely negated. This is a good thread. It is good when there is real discussion- after all, making an omelette does require breaking eggs :) meic -----Original Message----- From: Dave Caroline [mailto:[log in to unmask]] Sent: 16 February 2016 09:54 To: Meic Pierce Owen Cc: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: Title length What I see here is lack of knowledge of how a search engine works, if you just take the meaning of a title a search engine has a much harder time matching the users exact search term(original title) to your edited form with the meaning. Any form of prettifying a title to any rules presupposes the search engine know the rules you used. An example title Mechanisms of high-frequency generation of vibrations in resiliently packaged systems Prettify and try searching and also search that string Dave Caroline Securing the future... - Improving services - Enhancing quality of life - Making best use of public resources. The information in this email is solely for the intended recipients. If you are not an intended recipient, you must not disclose, copy, or distribute its contents or use them in any way: please advise the sender immediately and delete this email. Perth & Kinross Council, Live Active Leisure Limited and TACTRAN do not warrant that this email or any attachments are virus-free and does not accept any liability for any loss or damage resulting from any virus infection. Perth & Kinross Council may monitor or examine any emails received by its email system. The information contained in this email may not be the views of Perth & Kinross Council, Live Active Leisure Limited or TACTRAN. It is possible for email to be falsified and the sender cannot be held responsible for the integrity of the information contained in it. Requests to Perth & Kinross Council under the Freedom of Information (Scotland) Act should be directed to the Freedom of Information Team - email: [log in to unmask] General enquiries to Perth & Kinross Council should be made to [log in to unmask] or 01738 475000. General enquiries to Live Active Leisure Limited should be made to [log in to unmask] or 01738 454600. General enquiries to TACTRAN should be made to [log in to unmask] or 01738 475775. Securing the future... - Improving services - Enhancing quality of life - Making best use of public resources. Contact the list owner for assistance at [log in to unmask] For information about joining, leaving and suspending mail (eg during a holiday) see the list website at https://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/webadmin?A0=archives-nra