Martin's observation (hi Martin!) has me wondering: Do we know in detail about Catherine's liturgical practice? Would she have recited the Divine Office in Latin? Or the Little Office of the BVM? When non-clergy attended some Hour(s) of the Office in church, what did they do? Did some follow the recitation of the Psalms, etc.? Or did they practise some other devotions while the official Office was sung or recited by the clergy? Do we know what Catherine's community's practice was (they were not nuns and therefore not bound to the Latin Office)? -- Paul