Dear friends and colleagues,

  You might be interested by the (here attached) vision
of the president of the French CNRS
about what science can bring to:
"fighting (the phenomena which lead to Paris killings)
while avoiding blindness specific to terrors and its promoters".

  All the best,

2015-11-18 13:03 GMT+01:00 Paul Bourgine <[log in to unmask]>:
Dear Wander, dear all,

I am also supporting the argument of Mario with Ozge. Our democraties were not at all perfect inside as well as outside, internally and historically. Humans needs more justice inside each country as well as internationally between countries, in one word "at all levels". In this direction it is possible to complete the first sentence:

A flourishing global culture requires tolerance and the embracing of diversity as important principles. -> A flourishing global culture requires at all levels tolerance, equity of chance, justice and the embracing of diversity as the most important principles

I am happy to support the statement, independently of any rewriting.

Best regards,

Le 18 nov. 2015 à 11:23, Tabitha Kabora <[log in to unmask]> a écrit :

Dear all,

I wholeheartedly support the statement on behalf of our community and will share it with others on social media. The discussions brought up here highlight the need to assess the root causes of these forms of radicalization and violence and I look forward to working to bridge this knowledge gap and enhance our understanding for the benefit of humanity.

Tabitha Kabora.

On 18 November 2015 at 06:57, Kai Neumann <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

Isn't that what I have started with the collaborative qualitative cause and effect models I have shared earlier?
As this challenge is defined by many variables I find it hard to think of an ABM to tackle it, isn't it?



Kai Neumann
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(from a mobile device - in case there are mistakes in my text ...;-)

On Nov 18, 2015, at 4:57 AM, Nastaran Keshavarz Mohammadi <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

 Hi Dear All,
Thanks a lot for the initiative. I believe scientists, specially systems scientist should contribute more in solving social complex issues.
I would like, as complexity concepts suggest, considering multiple agents of the system which produces and support terrorist systems. It would be very simplistic to think,  ISIS is a religious system! I think it is rather a political party produced by politicians for political and economical goals. Let’s not forget, religions always have been and will be strong weapons in hands of those in power!
I would like to raise some questions:
How this horrible group funds itself? Who buys their oil? Who supports them? Which countries train them? Why they can still sell oil? Which bank they invest in? What technology they use to advertise themselves?  Is it believable that intelligent agencies fail to find them or stop them!!!! Also we should think why people may join them? What is the role of poverty , low literacy, and social isolation as well as mental and emotional disorders?
These are all agents and networks which should be considered. As long as these groups serve few countries and their politicians, normal people should pay. Wars in oil rich countries, religious conflicts and fear of terrorist attacks can make money for Weapon industry,  can  make it possible to buy illegal oil cheap, can change power systems  and etc, it is very complex! That is the way I see that.
According complexity concepts, I think good flow of accurate information  about beyond the scene of this group, and also sharing in common and true values of all religions can help   significantly.Can we do any thing in this regard?
I wish peace and love for all
Best Regards
Dr Nastaran Keshavarz Mohammadi
PhD, Health Promotion

Editorial Board Member, Health Promotion International

School of Public Health
Shahid Beheshti University of Medical Sciences

Skype ID: nastaran.keshavarz

On Tuesday, November 17, 2015 5:02 PM, Emile Chappin - TBM <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

Dear Wander,
Wholeheartedly support your statement!
Cheers, Emile
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Subject: [SIMSOC] Statement on behalf of our community on the Paris attacks
Dear friends
Usually we publish our ideas in scientific journals, but considering the impact of the terrorist attacks on innocent citizens on our society, the attack on Paris as the most recent gruesome act, I think that we, being scientists addressing the dynamics of society, have a responsibility to address the general public more directly. A polarisation of society, resulting in conflict, seems to be the aim of these fear-inducing attacks. The more society at large is aware of this likely aim, the more a liberal and tolerant culture might be resilient to such attacks.
I propose publishing a statement on behalf of our scientific community. The following tekst is a sightly adapted post I made on Facebook. It might serve as a start for a joint message, which should have tolerance and openness as key values for a global culture to strive for.
A flourishing global culture requires tolerance and the embracing of diversity as important principles. The IS attacks on innocent citizens appear to be aimed at undermining this tolerant culture by fuelling a polarisation process, setting up groups of people against each other. Rather than responding with violence, leading to a spiralling down to a repressive state, as scientists we believe that we should support critical thinking in areas dominated by dogmatic and repressive powers. We prefer drones offering internet access over drones packed with with explosives. Better a bombardment with laptops than with rockets. Mind that lead is better used for printing than for bullets!
 If you support this message just let me know, and if you have some suggestions for improving the tekst and for bringing this message out your input is valued very much.
I hope to share a final tekst on Monday, which I want to circulate on this list.
Warm regards from concerned citizen.
Wander Jager
Groningen Center for Social Complexity Studies
University College Groningen
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